Nice Article AJK - You may have to help some people with the definitions contained therein.

Your past posts speak many more volumes than anything you post today (a few days after yours and Bryant's crying jag started, I might add).

You are eating turd sandwiches.

Why was that anyway? That was always on my mind. What happened to Murray? Did he get hurt? The guy has always been able to shoot


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I just caught myself from fainitng. Cal thinks highly of a "Euro"? Has the world gone mad? Since we're complementing Euros, you can put an entire 12 man roster of Euros with 3 more on the injured list before we reach your Euro (Dirk, Tony Parker, Peja, Vlade, Hedo, Gasol, Kukoc, Giricek, Kirilenko, Nesterovic, Okur, Illgauskus with #2 or #3 overall pick this year Darko Milicic, Radmonovic, Tsakalidis, Drobnjak and Knicks PG draftee Milos Vujanic sporting the Mateen Cleaves style throwback warmup jerseys)


When it comes to the Lakers, grace just isn't your style. They lost. I may as well use that logic and call for the Islanders to win the Stanley Cup next year, since by boldly predicting Stanley Cups since 1980 that the Islanders would win the Cup, I would be right 16% of the time, even though I'd have been right 0% of the time over the last 20 years. Your signature remarkably chnaged from "The Quatro" to something else while the playoffs were still going on. Gee, I wonder why? :rolleyes:

I refuse to knock the Lakers. They were great champions and it's impossible to imagine Shaq and Kobe being through collecting rings. But even they knew when to quit dishing out the trash....

Now, my boys could very well be joining you later tonight on the beach, on the fishing boat, on the golf course, in the strip clubs... or we could be doing that in 2 weeks after the Spurs get through with us if we advance tonight. But I know you well enough to know you're hoping beyond hope Dallas or San Antonio gets rid of the Kings. In which case, you're no different from me in that we both take pleasure in rooting for another team to defeat the team we love... but that's cool.

As for tonight's game, I won't be by a computer in all likelihood, so my lone commentary. I hope the Kings win, but if my life depended on predicting tonight's winner, I'd say the Mavs have a 7 in 10 chance of winning this game. They have impressed me a lot with their awesome offensive display (BTW, not to knock any Lakers fan here, but how could you let Van Exel go? And what did you get for him?) and really have become beasts at home. This is a very tough spot for the Kings, without Webber.

To win, the Kings must become Laker-like in terms of tempo and poise. Slow the game down, make it the 1st team to 100 wins. Be patient on offense. Absolutely never shoot the 3 early or in transition, even if wide open.... use the clock and shoot the 3 with crisp ball movement that the Kings are great at doing. Go to the FT line and shoot 80% or above for the game and 85-90% in the 4th quarter. Divac must stay out of foul trouble, since he causes problems offensively for Dallas. Chrstie and Peja must also avoid foul problems (can't believe how much better Christie has played sicne Webber's injury... as a matter of fact, I'll take a seaweed bath in tribute to him if the Kings win tonight's game). Bibby doesn't need to be 2002 Bibby but he MUST hold his own vs Nash, for I expect Bobby Jackson to be playing another solid and efficient game. From there, the rest of the Kings cast (Hedo, Clark, Jim Jackson) must all contribute.

The Kings have taken all the learning steps and have suffered all the heartache a team can have before becoming champions. There's no more nice tries. There's no more we''ll get 'em next year, for if they lose tonight's game... I expect Petrie to look at making some tough decisions and do a bit of roster shakeup of his own. Teams have won Game 7's on the road (boy do I know that) before and it's more than the Lakers over Kings last year. See the Knicks over the Heat in 2000 or the Rockets over the Suns in 1995. It doesn't happen a lot, but it can happen.

Poise and tempo. If the Kings have these 2 things, tonight won't be the last game of the Kings season. If they miss either or both, Dallas will deservedly advance to face the Spurs.

And oh yeah, it couldn't hurt to hold Van Exel to under 25 points tonight... (and any of the other Big 4 to under 30)

I don't know why I keep seeing on TV that this is the "end of an era", and that this is the end of the Lakers. I laugh. I really don't see it. If they improve their talent (preferably powerforward), they will win the Championship next year. Shaq and Kobe aren't going anywhere. They can't do it by themselves like they used to because the league has caught up with them because of the lack of talent around them. If they keep improving the talent...this off-season, and so on, they'll probably win it every year.

All I'm saying is that it isn't over. Not by a long shot. The Lakers losing this series was probably the best thing to happen to them, and the worst thing to happen for the rest of the league.

spin spin spin.


and "if they improve their talent" they'll be back? Yeah... and if they'd scored more point than the Spurs they'd still be playing.

I'd venture to say if the Clippers were to "improve their talent" they'd be a better team than they are as well....

The Clips, and every team in the league, don't have Shaq and Kobe. You give Shaq and Kobe better talent around them, they'll win again, and again. It's not the same thing, because no other team has those two players.

So Oprah, when are you going to have your thread about them being abused as children? I mean that would help explain there folding under pressure ROFL

agreed... my point is that they had the talent.

Maybe if they hadn't treated the regular season like a half-assed scrimage... and Shaq wasn't 30 lbs over-weight... and they hadn't lost their fire.... etc etc

They got fat and happy. The only reason I was rooting agianst them was the fact that they (or their fans at least) acted like the championship was owed to them.

btw... why weren't the "Lake Show" fans complaining about this lack of talent before they got punked by 30 on their own floor?

They didn't fold under pressure, IMO. They couldn't carry the team. No one was helping them out. It was like 2 on 5 basketball out there for most of the playoffs and the regular season this year. They will improve the supporting cast, and then watch out.

You wanna find out more?...then tune into next Thursday's Oprah.

I suspect you're right... what was Horry.. like 3 for 30-something in the playoffs?

They just came off as prima donas... and I was happy to see 'em get slapped back down to earth. Hell, look at the title of this thread? Don't you think you Laker fans had a little of this comin'?

all in good fun though, Code... :toast:

I agree that the Lakers were overconfident. Almost like denial, or something. Shaq and Kobe (and the front office) thought they could carry that team. They got a wake up call. They can't do it on their own anymore.

I don't think it will be quite that easy Cal......
 

........ with the retirement of David Robinson the spurs have mucho money to spend also.

The Spurs should be given credit for fielding a roster that was put together specifically to beat the Lakers. Robinson, Rose and Willis gave them 18 fouls to use each game on Shaq.
Parker is better than any guard on the Lakers roster. Ginobilli played some very good basketball, Bowen had Bryant crying to the officials from the opening whistle of Game 1 with his chest to chest defense.
The Lakers will need somebody at the point to clamp down on Parker. That's in addition to finding a PF. Will they have the $ to do that and stay under the cap?
The Surs will likely keep Rose and maybe Willis will return too. There was an interesting thought of them signing Jermaine O'neal which would again put the Lakers behind the eight ball talent wise.

Anyway all this speculation and the Spurs have yet to win the West. Although they are prohibitive favorites there is still a long way to go.

Precisely what I spoke with Jim earlier this year on how to beat O'Neal - use the old Chicago Bulls tactic of using 3 players in rotation to get the fouling necessary to make a player less effectual than he actually is.

Something which Jim stated (if I remember right) would never work as Phil should know how to counter such strategy since he incorporated it so well.

Obviously you weren't paying too much attention to the NBA right?:rolleyes:

The Hack-A-Shaq was created by Don Nelson (not Jackson) when O'Neal was clanking FTs miserable earleir in his career. That all went out the window as Diesel's FTs rose above 62% and went even higher down the stretch in the 4th quarter.

Factor in the other Lakers who could stroll the the charity stripe after 5 team fouls made this a non-issue.

There is no strategy to "beat" Shaq. You design a defense that linits his supporting cast from going off. Shaq had plenty of touches in Game #6 because (are you following here?)...

Popovich didn't want the other role players to get into a rhythm by hoisting open jumpers.

The Spurs were able to play Shaq AND Kobe one-on-one
this series. THAT was what turned the tables and not 18 fouls to waste on Diesel.

But then, you "precisely" figured that out?:rolleyes:

Look deeper in this thread, I said the lack of talent was going to due them in.

To the top!!!!!!! ROFL

When does the NBA season start?

I thought you guys would never talk about NBA

basically I root for the Kings
like to watch Chris Webber play, which haven't happened yet this season... :banghead:

The Lakers got OLD fast. No way they come out on top in the West. The Timberwolves, Kings, Spurs, and Mavs can take them out. Shoot, Shaq got schooled by Yao a few days ago. That wasn't supposed to happen yet... :hmmm:

But WHO the F cares anyway as it's only the NBA... ROFL

An NBA thread with this many replies?

I think I'm going to puke.

It's a year old.

hell yeh, now I noticed...
who dig this out....?
:p

ROFL

As for the actual (old) topic, I hate the Lakers. I hate the Kings even more. **** Peja Stoycrockofshit and that bitch-assed Floppe.

LOL

At anyone foolish enough to think the Lakers cannot win it all this year. ROFL


Oh and the season starts in May with the playoffs, this is all just practice for the 5 top teams, Lakers, Kings, San Antonio T-Wolves and Dallas

(shovel, shovel, shovel.....) :)

The Lake Show (31-19) has just released the 2nd half clutch on the Championship stick shift.

The Sacktown Euros just clinched the 1st half trophy (again?), which guarantees them a 2nd round flameout against the Hall of Fame crew residing in Staples.

The Mavs have ZERO defense.
The Boot Accessorizors have match-up problems with Shaq+Mailman.
Yao hasn't felt play-off pressure yet.
TWolves will be tough IF they can actually win a series.

Everyone else in the league is just play-off filler.

The only problems I foresee with the Zenmaster is his retirement after nabbing his 10th ring (surpassing that freak Aurebach).

It's all good out here in Cali............. :p

You know I coulda swore I read these same post a few pages ago. Lets see what happened ........... Oh yeah you got booed out of your own court. ROFL

That's 4-0 since the All-Star break with a biatch-slap on those Cow Farmers this Thursday at Staples.

Kobe has returned to form dropping 30-40 per game as the Diesel prepares to drop the VladeFlop with a few well placed "bows" in the paint.

The Lake Show is inching up to the #3 spot and has their sights set on reclaiming the Pacific Division.

It will be 4 games back after this Thursdays "Crucifixtion." :thumb:

One of the dwindling NBA fan base?

Didn't you say this last year too?

Who won last year?

I don't know. I stopped watching when Bird and Johnson retired. Too many sissy rules to open up offenses and bring the casual viewer to the screen.

So I'm not the only one dredging the archives to bring up decent subject matter ROFL

BTW, Lakers still SUCK!

And if they don't, they will force the hotel help to do so.

Well the hotel help didn't help them last season--San Antonio won.


Can we dig up a R aiders win the SB thread also?

You stopped watching because the Celtics continue to be one of the worst managed teams in the NBA. But it is understandable since you are just a front running fan (Sorry about the Dead Wings reference).

And what "sissy rules" are you referring to?

A. The 8 second rule to cross half-court?

B. Legalizing the illegal zone defense that was rampant ?

C. No more one-on-one, back your man down B.S.?

D. Prohibiting the hand checks that slowed down players?

Funny, but the pre-sissified years of Bird/Johnson has HIGHER scoring games than we have today. The real reasons that the scores are down is that the team concept of playing ball has been removed in favor for ESPN moments on SportsCenter.

Your Celtics are HORRIBLE to watch because all they have is Paul Pierce and his cast of no names. Your Coach up and quits, Aurebach is a drunk, and (M)Ainge knows nothing about assembling a team.

The REAL reason you stopped watching the Celtics is because they stink!

But I'll continue to keep ya posted on the Lakers return to greatness.........

Umm, yeah, that's it. You must be right. After all the NBA is on an all-time high in ratings and dollars. It must only be me. Even Michael Jordan coming back from the dead couldn't save the NBA at this point.

BTW - Fix your sig, horribe is not a word

As Kobe said tonight in the post game interview;

"It's time to dance, baby!"

Time for the two court shuffle - dancin' in LA and then out to Colorado.

So, how 'bout those Timberpups?

With the Lakers on this 2nd half play-off run (8-2) and 3 of 4 on this nasty roadie that included punking the Nets and Rockets, it is time to give this thread justice.

We'll no doubt inch up to that #3 spot, wipe out our first round opponent and then bi-atch slap those Euro Farmers from Cowtown in the 2nd round.

Of course the resident pot-smoking felon will perjuror himself in the 4th quarter of these tight play-off games and/or tweak his post season ankle when the team desperately needs him.

Such is the life of a bridesmaid.............

BTW: The over/under for the TCubs is losing the first round in 7 games.

Lakers in the playoffs are gonna be tough. Got to love the fact that they keepit under the salary cap.

:D ROFL

The Lakers could lose in round 1 this year. The Kings, Wolves, Spurs, and Mavs are all better than LA. It all depends who they draw. They might get past San Antonio, but that's all IMO...

The Kings maybe, the Spurs are a draw, the TWolves cannot compete in the playoffs with the Lakers and as to Dallas get real they cannot beat anyone in the playoffs.

Let's break this down per your assessment;

Kings: NEVER beaten the Lakers in post season.

Wolves: NEVER won a play-off series

Mavs: Lakers are 28-4 against them! Defense like the KC Chiefs.

Spurs: Only LEGITIMATE threat to unseat them because of Duncan.

The Kings might get spanked in the FIRST round if they play Houston.

The Lakers, if all the stars are healthy will get Payton/Malone their rings.

Is this all just smack?

Great call. Dallas can't shoot lights out long enough to win anything. Cubs have never won jack. Queens are great all the way around. Vladeflop should insure they never win anything worth winning but are still my biggest worry. Spurs are a bigger wildcard that LA at this point.

I think it was, got to give him credit he had fun.:D

Funny, I thought I saw the Kings win at LA a mere week ago with All-Stars Brad Miller and Chris Webber on the sidelines.

Bumpity another thread in honor of the Lakers Fine Season ROFLROFL . Officially eliminated from the playoffs. :D Great offseason moves guys :thumb:

The team just aint the same w/o ol' mumblewhisper...