Meh. Jimmy Smith isn't very good, either.

His combine results were pretty good. His straight line speed was mediocre, but his agility and strength tests were outstanding.

40 yd: 4.53 (19th)
3 cone: 6.59 (1st)
20 yd shuttle: 3.98 (1st)
broad jump: 124 (8th)
vertical jump: 35.5 (22nd)
bench: 21 (3rd)

It's hard for me to understand why he was still available in the 7th round too.

LMAO Nobody wants Pioli's trash.

He played in a gimmick offense with a running quarterback at Michigan and as a byproduct of his situation wasn't very productive and his skills weren't developed in a way that would be attractive to NFL teams.

Joke from the Royals threads when they were winning games back in July/August

Who's the ncb for the Seahawks? 9ers? Bears?

I have no idea and those are some of the best defenses in the league. Yes, you can't have shit at your 3rd corner spot, but like DJ said, look around the league. Not many teams trot out 3 great corners.

I'm also of the belief that if we're that worried about our 3 and 4 corners losing games, players 1-22 aren't doing their jobs.

It's time for the stars of this team to be stars

Pass defenders get targeted by QBs all the time. If Dunta Robinson doesn't find his testicles somewhere, his play against a team like Denver with a QB like Manning will look like Vince Agnew out there.

And that most certainly will lose a team the game.

the problem is Dunta Robinson is getting paid 15 million to play exactly like an UDFA or late round pick that you can plug to do the exact same thing by paying the league minimum.

that's the argument. Paying a good to premium price for the same exact garbage play does not, and will never make logical sense.

Manning will make flowers loon like Agnew if we don't have guys around him in his face.

I guess that's what I'm getting at. If our front 7 doesn't or its better at rushing the passer, it won't matter.

He'll the 9ers are starting namdi at 1 corner. That dude was awful last year, yet I'm sure hell be competent there because of the pass rush

That I can get on board with.

Here we go again.

NOBODY expects "3 great corners" if I am going to respond to you, don't put words in my mouth or it's pointless to respond ...but to act as if we should have just stood pat with Jalil Brown is just silly. The dude was horrible in coverage and didn't show improvement over his time here. It's no mistake that NOBODY claimed him on waivers, even though he was on a cheap rookie contract for a 4th rounder.

Again...I can't believe anybody is disappointed that we cut Jalil Brown...except BlackBob.

He LOVED Jalil.

i just dont understand the hype and protection of these Pioli picks like Jalil Brown and Jerrell Powe for the last ____ seasons/years.

If these guys were worth a shit by any other teams GM/scouting personnel, they would have been claimed instantly by someone. ****ing Ricky Stanzi was claimed, and made a final roster by DOING NOTHING. think about that. The fact that all the GOOD teams let the Jalil Browns and Wylies and Powes through waivers should be telling of what other teams think about our trash/depth.

Hell, the Chiefs and Jags claimed like 14 guys yesterday, I'm assuming other teams were ready to claim guys like JMJ, Moses, etc that we got. So good on Dorsey for taking advantage of being 1st in the order. Something Fat Scott never ****ing did, because he just would give his draft picks immunity on the roster, no competition and would never ever cut them for another teams cuts

people are used to standing pat because Scooter Pioli would stand pat with guys like Jalil Brown, Powe, etc. So you had no choice but to cheer for them, no matter how obvious it was they were bad. But excuses always flowed that it was the schemes fault, the coaching, the QB, and that once all that was fixed these guys would climb the depth chart.

Well scheme and coaching did change and you see what a real coach thinks of them now.

The secondary is only as good as it's weakest player.

That guy is Dante Robinson and I GUARANTEE that opposing quarterbacks will know exactly wheee he is when he gets on the field and will be licking their chops.

I don't know if you've got stuff going on personally or if something pushed you over the edge here, but youve taken on quite the opposite end demeanor than we were used too. It's fine either way, but hopefully all is well.

And I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, I don't really care either way about brown. I'm simply stating that more times than not, what he brought and was us what your gonna get with the 4th cb on your roater