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TheUte 01-09-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10358487)
No QB is going to play like that game for 5 straight years.

No D is going to play like that game for 5 straight years.

No coaching staff is going to coach like that game for 5 straight years.

You question is designed so I will give you the answer you want me to say.

That is not the point of the question and you know, you are just being stubborn.

007 01-09-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10358491)
That is not the point of the question and you know, you are just being stubborn.

And you are not being stubborn? Give me a ****ing break.

Oh, and for the record, I fully stand behind OTPs post answering your question.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10358482)
Why can't everyone admit this was a ****ing team loss. JFC That doesn't mean Alex didn't play lights out in the first half. That doesn't mean the defense didn't shit the bed in the second half. But here it the thing, the defense played lights out in the first half and Alex played average in the second half. The coaching was great in the first half and shitty in the second half.

No matter how you slice it, the team played poorly in the second half. Simple as that.

Yes, I want Alex extended. Yes, I like Alex. Yes, he is probably the best we can expect to get at this point.

but, i want Alex signed to a reasonable contract that is escapable after 3 years. Not Flacco and Cutler money.

Most, if not all of the people that have been critical of Alex have said that the TEAM played poorly in the second half, and that they would still extend him.

But as Parker has pointed out many times over the last month, that's not good enough for these Niner fans, because you're still somehow being critical of Smith.

I wonder if these guys are like this in real life - unable to take any form of criticism.

It really is amazing the depths these guys will go to.

007 01-09-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358497)
Most, if not all of the people that have been critical of Alex have said that the TEAM played poorly in the second half, and that they would still extend him.

But as Parker has pointed out many times over the last month, that's not good enough for these Niner fans, because you're still somehow being critical of Smith.

I wonder if these guys are like this in real life - unable to take any form of criticism.

It really is amazing the depths these guys will go to.

It just baffles me that they cannot see how this was a team loss.

TheUte 01-09-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10358502)
It just baffles me that they cannot see how this was a team loss.

Every win is a team win and every loss is a team loss. Period.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10358504)
Every win is a team win and every loss is a team loss. Period.

Not sure you can contradict yourself any more in a single thread:

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357497)
I have to disagree, the offensive players including Alex and Bowe played awesome and did more then should be required to win a game.

The play calling and Defense was awful, 44 points on the road in a playoff game in the NFL is incredible.

SORRY, poor defense and Game management by Coaches lost this game.

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357672)
As I have said, Andy needs help with situational football.

He really needs to hire an adviser. He is a good coach damn that mofo just doesn't make the best decisions sometimes.

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357535)
No not at all. I'm placing most blame on coaching.

There was no game strategy, no plan no game management at all.

Sometimes game planning and game management is important.

How many time did we blitz in the 2nd half? It seems like never.

The game was miss managed by the coaches.

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357292)
I'm sorry dude Bowe should have caught that ****ing ball, period.

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10357272)
He (Alex) is blameless for the loss, he was nails.



It's a team game, yet you've managed to lay blame at just about everyone other than Alex.

Y'all make this too ****ing easy.

mschiefs1984 01-09-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10358502)
It just baffles me that they cannot see how this was a team loss.

I don't think that anyone is saying that the offense is 100% blame free. I think most are just saying the defense is far more to blame then the offense. To support this I go back to what I've been say

In the 256 games this season 2 games ended with the losing team having over 40 points. That's the regular season. Now it's 3 in 260 games

The point

Even with the 2nd half offense the Chiefs offense played well enough in the first half to win 98.8% of the games in the nfl

Even with the defense in the 1st half in the 2nd they played bad enough that only loses 1.2% of the games in the NFL.

I think what most are saying is that the defense was the weak link.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2014 08:13 PM

It's impossible to assign weighted blame.

It's what people do to make themselves feel better about the overall situation, or about a particular player.

Every play on the field plays a role, and the negative plays by the offense in the 2nd half (fumble, missed pass, clock management) all played a part in the play of the defense.

Hell, the argument could be made that the defense played well enough in the first half to win most games - yet I don't see anyone doing it.

If it wasn't for the defense, we wouldn't have gotten out to a 38-10 lead.

Yet when the offense disappears along with the lead, it's the defense's fault?

Offense, defense and coaching all shit the bed in the 2nd half, no particular unit more than another.

TheUte 01-09-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10358511)
Not sure you can contradict yourself any more in a single thread:

It's a team game, yet you've managed to lay blame at just about everyone other than Alex.

Y'all make this too ****ing easy.

Saying that the defense played like shit, in no way contradicts Teams win and Teams lose.

Saying that the coaches could have done a better job doesn't change anything either.

gblowfish 01-09-2014 08:20 PM

When you say "we need to extend Alex Smith" I hope you mean that in the most positive, non sexual way.

NTTAWWT....

Fritz88 01-09-2014 08:22 PM

We gave up too much to get him. So far, he's proven to many here that he was worth the trade.

He's going to get in 90 million range, hate or or leave it. Let's hope Bray pans out.
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threebag 01-09-2014 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10356769)
He had a chance to seal it like a Brady/Manning showdown.

By throwing for a first down on fourth down in clutch time only to have BOWE step out of bounds and not drag his foot. I tried not to see it but it's there. The dipshit is shining through.

Fritz88 01-09-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 10358540)
By throwing for a first down on fourth down in clutch time only to have BOWE step out of bounds and not drag his foot. I tried not to see it but it's there. The dipshit is shining through.

I see why there's frustration with Alex. But that throw was perfect. Bowe just couldn't get his foot inbound.

I don't see why Alex is blamed for this one. He threw a good one.
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BigCatDaddy 01-09-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10358444)
Warpath you never answered my questions, I'm sure you just missed them.
So here they are again.

First, If you could get that game from AS in every game for the next 5 years would you take it?

Second, If got that game from your Defense every game for the next 5 years would it take it?

Third, If you coaches managed games that way for the next 5 years would you take it?

When do you plan to stop beating your wife?

threebag 01-09-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10358542)
I see why there's frustration with Alex. But that throw was perfect. Bowe just couldn't get his foot inbound.

I don't see why Alex is blamed for this one. He threw a good one.
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Bowe kept the three most inportant points off the board.


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