Your Alexsexuality is strong, padawan.

The only ones crying here are the ones who don't like it when it's pointed out that alex is completely ordinary in every way.

"It's everyone's fault but Axl's".

DID NOT PREDICT THIS! LMAO

I suggested to Clay that "Ordinary Average Guys" was the perfect song for Axl's highlight reel this year...

Besides winning percentage. I hope you guys lose out. Some of your fanbase doesn't deserve this success. Don't even know how to handle it besides ball like women. Most teams would kill to be 5-0 but not the KC Squaws.

2-14 is where you deserve to be, and I hope that every game from here on out is a blowout loss. Give you something real to cry about.

You Geno ass kissers are worse

are we not down to our 3te? Pretty sure that's fact

Do we not have drops? PRetty sure that's fact

Do we not have a lot of presnap penalties? Fact as well

Geno ass kissers excuses

Geno doesn't have the chiefs running game. No he has had a better one

Geno's a rookie well so is fisher but yet he doesn't get that same rookie treatment

And you want to talk about excuses LMAO

Jets fans

Your act is predictable. Same stuff before.

Extreme focus on the simple thing to do, :cuss: Alex Smith :cuss:.


Again, why did things improve for the 49ers in 2012?

The areas around Smith stepped up from being crapola.

Nobody is gonna being making excuses when Smith doesn't turn out to be a great QB. He is not a great QB.

The reasons for the offense sputtering at times this year is Alex Smith AND company.

Why was a thread created to debate over 2 average QBs?

It's like debating, Who's better Christian Ponder or Master Cassehole? Who gives a Shit neither one of them are even top 10 Qb's.

This thread is pointless

Nobody cares what niner fans think. We hope you get aids...

One is a proven average guy.

The other is a rook who may very well surpass that descriptor.

One was acquired to "win now" at a high cost(the additional cost more than likely being the usual one and done in the post season).

The other has the potential to supersede said possibility, but is a work in progress.

One team made mucho grip peddling their used trash to KC.

The other team is too ****ing scared to even try to draft and develop a high round pick at the QB position for Eleventy Billion years and counting.

Understand?

Yeah, that too.

Good. You're starting to get angry. Now I can hate you for the piece of shit illiterate moron you are.

I'm curious as to what its going to take to get some of you off Axl's back... a couple of playoff wins this year, a super bowl this year?

Seriously, whats it gonna take... yes, Geno loves to air it out and has looked excellent for a rookie... but just because he has a "sexier" style of play does not make him a more effective QB.

How are we really supposed to compare these two guys who are in such different spots in their careers? Is this more about Fisher vs Geno and where they were picked, or is it really all about comparing two vastly different playing styles and deciding who looks better in a bikini?

Can Geno one day lead the jets to the promised land? he's certainly looking capable of it one of these days... does he stand a better chance of winning in the playoffs right now or next year than Axl? c'mon, he just doesnt and thats gotta be a major reason why we didnt take him, our core talent is getting too old to wait on a kid to shake his growing pains... if you want to win NOW he simply wasnt the right choice.

While Geno is growing up, we're winning football games and building a winning tradition, the kind of tradition that can have us very much respectable and in the thick of the hunt for the next decade.

And no, Alex isnt going to be a part of that entire decade, the next guy will be up soon enough, dont believe it? just look at what Reid and Dorsey are already doing, leaving no stone unturned and finding gems all over the damn place... they arent settling for OK.

Anyway, i hope this dies down one day and everyone can enjoy the fact that KC is FINALLY making a name for itself as a winner.

Yes.

So far he doesn't give me hope we can beat a good team in the playoffs.

Ryan Fitzpatrick very nearly beat us last week.

The short term:

Become Gannon or his rough equivalent.

Long Term(ie two years max):

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LOL
Angry why? Because what's being said on the internet. I don't get angry.

And tell me again how I'm a moron I stated FACTS

We are down to our 3rd TE Fasano and Kelce have both been out for a LONG time that puts up down to our 3rd string TE FACT

We have had drops and Pre snaps penalties FACTS

The Jets running game has been better it's been proven FACT

But I'm the moron?

You people are just butthurt that Dorsey and Reid didn't get who YOU wanted and now You WHINE and moan about it like a spoiled Child.

You don't seem to understand positional value whatsoever. Let me try to help you understand a little about where some of us are coming from.

Let's say we drafted a punter with the first pick in the draft.

Wouldn't he be expected to be phenomenal RIGHT AWAY?

1. You have no ****ing clue who or what I wanted or didn't want, unless you went back into the archives and looked it up. And if you did, that's just plain creepy.

2. You don't know how to speak ****ing English. I can't ****ing understand half of the shit you've typed.

3. Like BossChief said, you have yet to address the concern raised about POSITIONAL VALUE when you have a high draft pick. It's almost like it doesn't ****ing exist with you.

4. Yes, you're mad. I can tell. Your tone has changed significantly since you started posting in this thread.

Kickers and position players and 2 VERY different things

Let me give you and Example

Orlando Pace. Living near St louis over the years I've seen a TON of Rams game since they moved to St louis in 95 his first year he had his rookie moments the next year he went to the pro bowl and he was a pro bowler for YEARS. But he had his rookie moments so he was a bust right? That's what you geno ass kissers are saying.

But anytime Geno being a turnover machine is brought up it's oh he's a rookie. That's a copout if you don't give fisher the same rookie treatment

I asked a simple question.

If we drafted a punter with the first pick in the draft, you would EXPECT him to be phenomenal RIGHT AWAY...right?

Point 1 your right

Point 2 learn to read?

Point 3 I have said time and time again that YES he should show promise before a QB. But making him out to be horrible before he has even reached halfway in his rookie year is a bit extreme but you geno asskisser go through to cry that you didn't get your way

point 4 LMAO you have no idea how much i have laughed tonight. At how far you geno asskissers go to bash this team for not replacing a turnover machine with a turnover machine

There is a reason that NFL GMs pay TOP FLIGHT RTs under 6 million dollars a year and top flight quarterbacks get between 20-25 million PER YEAR.

Aaron Rodgers makes more in 1 year than a top flight RT makes in 5 years.

You know why?

Positional value.

So, when you spend the top pick in the draft on a right tackle, he better be really good right away because you are giving him a fully guaranteed contract that pays him at the level the elite guys from his position group get paid.

When you draft a quarterback, you are getting that player at 1/4 of the cost of a fully matured franchise quarterback...or about the same amount Josh Freeman is getting from Minnesota.

Playoff wins or a super bowl, what is it you expect? He beat good teams in the playoffs with frisco, why couldnt he do it here? His boring style protects the defense, is that really so wrong if it leads to wins.

If you ask me, he's already in Gannon territory... a very football smart QB who has everything you want except a cannon arm, but the flipside is he isnt often going to put your defense in a bad spot with his sharp decision making... Loose Gannon made it to the big show, Smythe was a botched play not of his making away from it... he's pretty much already their with Rich, imo.

Gannon as a Chief.

Smart, effective more often than not. Consistent through 4 quarters.

He's not there.

This goes for everybody.

I want to know what language this post was written in. I have no clue what it says. My best guess is it's backwards Hebrew. Or possibly Croatian.

LMAO

Pretty sure that's English I no it's hard to read with Geno's rear end in the way

Lemme guess - pig latin?

The Planet is ****ing with his head with its dogged persistence, HE'S NOT USED TO THIS CRAP!.

Lets call it, Noobian.

Over/under on how many posts before this guy shows he is smart enough to properly use the language?

I'm setting that bar at 829 posts.

My 9 year old knows the difference between know and no...or their and there.

Sad.

Not me.

LMAO

Ok this is pointless I'll go to anther site this I thought was a site for Chiefs fans not geno ass kissers so I'll do you a favor and leave

But before I go let me say that I find you people to be anything BUT chiefs fans. You bash a QB who has come to KC and win. 5-0 and instead of being happy you whine and cry that the QB isn't who you wanted. You give all Chiefs fans a bad name. Telling people to get aids Real classy real classy. It's real sad when the 49ers fans on here act more like Chiefs fans then You people. The fact is the FACTS don't support your opinion. You can't do better in the w-l department in 5 games then 5-0 that's what Alex Smith has done yet you people crap all over him. The chiefs didn't draft Geno Smith TO BAD SO SAD. He wasn't the right choice You wanted to go from turnover machine to Turnover machine and I'm the stupid one ok. I will go spend my time doing something more productive then continue dealing with internet tough guys and know it alls when the facts don't support them. Have a nice day.

No. He beat one team in the playoffs. TEAM. Not plural.

Sunshine. Ass. Dog.

I really hope Alex Smith continues to develop the lacking parts of his game and learns to go for the throat when he needs to.

I hate being pessimistic and want to homer up like some of you here, but I've been sold the snake oil too many times...

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Do me a favor when you get there, will ya?

Tell omahacolt that Matt Cassel still isn't a franchise quarterback.

:LOL:

Now now now, calm down... i thought you were showing promise early on.

But this hissy fit isnt helping, you cant move mountains in a day... take the night off and come back aware of the fact that your strong opinion probably isnt changing any minds and just have fun with it.

Good night...

Thanks for a POV and some substance vs. the name calling.

KC was in a strange/unlucky spot when they bottomed out.

The team was not lacking in some great talent.

49ers young core players back when they had the #1 pick.

Complete busts

Kwame Harris
Brandon Lloyd *Got a 3rd round pick for him. Never seemed commited. Got his money from WAS and proved that. Bursts back onto the scene in 2010.
Derrick Hamilton
Rashaun Woods
Justin Smiley *OK OG I guess. MIA signed him in 08
Shawntae Spencer *OK CB
Anthony Adams *OK player I guess, hard to tell with inside DL
Andre Carter *Pro bowl, production drops, hurt, then moved to 3-4, not good, Leaves vis FA.
Eric Johnson *always hurt, married Jessica Simpson
Kevan Barlow *2 more years then out of the NFL
Mike Rumph
Julian Peterson *Franchise tag in 04. Achilles tear. Meh 05, Leaves vis FA


49ers in 2005 had no option other than a project QB and rebuild.

I wonder how things would have been different if the 49ers had taken Aaron Rodgers first overall and Alex Smith fell to the Packers and sat behind Favre for 3 years.

Yeah, a lot of "bloddy hell!" on that list.

He's done nothing of the sort. He's had two good games (against crappy defenses), two spectacularly bad games, and one ok game.

Pretty stellar for 2nd round rook thrown to the fire, yes?

Also, I love it when n00bs come here (a site with thousands of differing opinions that is loosely moderated) and get all butthurt right away when a few people have a different perspective towards the team than them.

I can picture this mattchiefs guy typing a lot of words thinking to himself while he types "yeah, they are gonna offer me their wives and daughters for the greatness of my individual perspective" and then they hit submit and get blasted back to the stoneages by fans of the same team that don't see things the exact same way as him.

It must be heart breaking for some of these guys.

LMAO

What's more likely?

The guy who has raised checking the ball down and leading average scoring offenses to an art form wins a Super Bowl, or the talented kid who is improving by leaps and bounds every game and has three fourth quarter comebacks in five games does it?

Hmmmmm.

Alex Smith has thrown almost as many poor passes as the 21 year old rook while facing the #30 pass defense, the #29 pass defense and the # 22 ranked pass defenses in football (with far more talent to work with) defenders just haven't caught the ball like they did on Genos poor throws.

Genoexuses?

Have you went back and reread through the first couple pages of this thread?

Almost everyone said that they EXPECT Geno to be a complete dumpster fire because of how circus like the situation he went into was.

Everyone expected the Jets to be bad enough to have a top five pick and for Rex Ryan to definitely be fired midseason.

Lemons into lemonaid.

I was making excuses by calling them poor passes?

Printers Chicken Salad FTW.

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That's largely inflated due to 1 game.

You douchebags are the ones that get butthurt

49ers fans who just come to support the QB on the team you claim to be a fan of are told to "get aids"

Anyone who has who has said anything Pro Alex Smith has been called Dumbass reerun ECT. When the facts say they're right.

It's you people who are the dumbass

Ya lets replace QBs who hurt the team with turnover with a guy on pace for over 30 turnovers. How smart is that?

122 ypg rushing isn't as good as 120 a game according to you geno ass kissers since "we have the better running game"

We have lost Fasano and Kelce to injury but you're stupid if you think we are on our 3rd sting TE Right?

Geno Smith gets to make mistakes because he's a rookie but not Eric Fisher. Because he's a QB well RT's are rookies to dumbass Oh and you couldn't answer the example of Orlando Pace who like Fisher had rookie moments you go tell Rams fans he wasn't worth the number 1 pick We'll see who they call a dumbass

I was going to just stay away but screw it I'm not going to let a few douchebags like you run me off. When you spread your BS and Lies I will respond with the facts. Don't like it TO BAD. I'm a freaking Kansas City Chiefs fan you are a Geno Smith fan go root for the freaking Jets

Nothing is ever his fault. His wide receivers can't get open, nobody can block, it was raining, he just needs time to gel with the offense, its a new system, maybe Charles just isn't that good as a running back, Bowe drops everything.

Did I get all the excuses?

ROFL

that's exactly what I hoped for.

You didn't disappoint.

Same as it ever was.

We got a live one

And it's the same with Geno because he's a rookie

No one says Alex isn't at fault but all the people you blame are Never at fault? It's a team game they're all a part of it

It is, though.

You have to apply different standards to veterans vs rookies.

Especially when the rookie is balling the **** out of control and shitting on Alex's pathetic 6.5 YPA.

You say otherwise with Fisher but go on double standards are the only thing you Geno lovers have

Difference between Fisher and Geno is that Geno has shown flashes of ridiculous talent. Fisher has been getting steamrolled everytime he sets foot on the field.

One was selected at 1.1

The other was a lowly, unworthy 2nd round pick.

Can you see why there might be a difference in expectations?

Clay, mon frere, can you pull up Fisher v. Winston PFF stats for this year?


All I heard this year was how we were upgrading. Is this indeed true?

Yes, that's actually true. But still everybody knows that 49er fans already have AIDS.. so it's not like a joke or anything...

I understand that part and I understand the position thing but 4 games is enough to make him out to be a wasted pick?

You also have to throw in that the ENTIRE o line has struggled. But single out the rookie that's fair

CP never disappoints.LMAO

That's an opinion. Additionally, it's not very specific.


Could you clarify in more detail as to what you mean by "struggle"?

You know, if you rinse the sand out of your vagina, you might find you are more comfortable.

Hey, re-send me that PM you mentioned the other day. I must have deleted it on accident.

The fact that Fisher has been as horrible as you people say is also opinion

But Ok they have across the board been beat on plays. They have all been called for holding,false starts ECT. There has been pressure on Smith from both sides at times. Smith has made time with the fact that he can be mobile but that doesn't mean the line has been good. Just this last game Brandon Albert who declared the offseason he was a "top 5" LT got a bad holding call. And he got beat on a play. He's a vet why is Fisher the only one you people bash constantly when others have at times been just as bad. Well other then he's not who you wanted and some of you just can't get over it and need to whine

Fisher's not a QB.

So classy you can't argue anything said so just throw insults real adult of you But I expect nothing less seeing as you seem to enjoy acting like a spoiled child

54. Winston
58. Fisher

But still a rookie. What QBs are the only ones that get to use the rookie thing?

And no one has answered Orlando Pace he wasn't perfect his rookie year he was a horrible pick right?