MJ isn't beating the 73 win Warriors, that's for sure. Not when a play like this was necessary to get it done:

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But you didn’t answer my question.

Lol, yeah MJ could NEVER do something like that. Unless he did it better, at 41:
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Jordan first-team defensive awards: 10

Lebron first-team defensive awards: 5

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Still curious about your response to the question I asked. You are starting to approach Knowmo territory by ignoring posts you don’t want to answer and instead positing tweets and videos to defend your case.

This is a pretty odd conversation. I mean, having an argument about who's better or the GOAT is one thing, but calling MJ a fraud is just Flat-Earther-level lack-of-IQ nonsense.

I never called MJ a fraud. A fraudulent GOAT perhaps, but he's legitimately the 2nd best player ever. I was referring to what Barry calls him (and also Brady who very much is a fraud).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jordan in the 4th quarter, Games 4-6 1996 Finals:<br><br>9 PTS<br>2/12 FG<br>5/5 FT<br>16.7% eFG<br>31.7% TS<br><br>OMFG <a href="https://t.co/2dXUmiWho8">pic.twitter.com/2dXUmiWho8</a></p>&mdash; Barry (@BarryOnHere) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarryOnHere/status/1663642888641839104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These numbers speak volumes.

Why the **** would a beaker/Raptor fan even care? Though you do claim imaginary titles and that's insecure and lame as ****, so who knows why

Barry is a fraud, so...

I'll answer your question with a question. Why wouldn't you care about the greatest basketball player who ever lived? Why wouldn't anybody? It's literally history.

And nobody here claimed imaginary titles (unless you count those won by the KD Warriors):

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kevin Durant has posted a photo just now of him and Bob Myers together <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DubNation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DubNation</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBATwitter?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NBATwitter</a> <a href="https://t.co/CVb3zFIFWE">pic.twitter.com/CVb3zFIFWE</a></p>&mdash; Court Side Heat (@courtsideheat) <a href="https://twitter.com/courtsideheat/status/1663742031020302337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I couldn't say, but I do know he's right about Brady and MJ not being the GOAT of their sports.

You are lying. You certainly did.

Take Lebron off the Heat super teams and replace him with Jordan. Do they lose to the Mavericks? Does Jordan need a last second three from Allen after he missed to avoid losing to the Spurs and possibly having one ring to show for the super team?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nobody cares.<br><br>Quality over quantity. <a href="https://t.co/54RxZ9Y0xw">https://t.co/54RxZ9Y0xw</a> <a href="https://t.co/xp0RP5j9QW">pic.twitter.com/xp0RP5j9QW</a></p>&mdash; AirJordans23 (@AirJordans2323) <a href="https://twitter.com/AirJordans2323/status/1663646186044022788?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron has the highest peak in modern NBA history.<br><br>Even higher than MJ. <a href="https://t.co/g0cIYO60kR">pic.twitter.com/g0cIYO60kR</a></p>&mdash; Uncovering the Truth (@shendy456) <a href="https://twitter.com/shendy456/status/1663929015768428546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Based on what? That tweet doesn't prove what you and others thinks it does.

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LMAO

Since we are piling on I should also add

NBA Championships:

Jordan- 6
Lebron- 4 (despite playing more seasons and Jordan taking time off for baseball)

NBA Finals MVP:

Jordan-6
Lebron-4

NBA MVP:

Jordan-5
Lebron-4

NBA Defensive Player of the Year:

Jordan-1
Lebron-0

NBA Scoring Leader:

Jordan-10
Lebron-1

NBA Steals Leader:

Jordan-3
Lebron-0

NBA First Team Defense

Jordan-9
Lebron-6

NBA Final Record:

Jordan 6-0
Lebron 4-6 (despite personally building a super team). If not for a last second three by Ray Allen off a Lebron miss, He would be 3-7 with three losses just to the Spurs, and one ring total out of his super team.

Better Movie:

Jordan-Space Jam ($250 million worldwide in 1996)
Lebron- Space Jam A New Legacy ($144 million in 2021)

Fact is Lebron is Brady in the sense that a lot of his numbers are a result of playing forever and being relatively healthy. For as good as he is, he has very few things in which he has over Jordan. The reality is that had Jordan not gone to play baseball, there was a very strong chance that he would have won 9 NBA Championships in a row. He also played his early career when the game was far more physical and yet still excelled. He is a great player, but he is no Jordan regardless of what Barry has to say.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Player A: Player B:<br>30.1 PPG 30.3 PPG<br>6.1 APG 6.2 APG<br>0.9 BPG 1.1 BPG<br>51.9 FG% 52.4 FG%<br><br>One was MJ in Year 8, the other was LeBron in Year 19. <a href="https://t.co/CkBtCkjDZ8">pic.twitter.com/CkBtCkjDZ8</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1662542669493727232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">most 30+ point games by a player on 60+ TS% in NBA History:<br><br>453 — LeBron James<br><br>364 — Michael Jordan <br>334 — Kevin Durant <br>323 — Karl Malone <br>284 — Stephen Curry <br>275 — James Harden <br>260 — Kobe Bryant <br>231 — Dirk Nowitzki <br>225 — Shaquille O&#39;Neal <br>203 — Charles Barkley <br>202 —… <a href="https://t.co/plYZXFMpzY">pic.twitter.com/plYZXFMpzY</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1664044616558182401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">most 30+ point games by a player on 50+ FG% in NBA History: <br><br>500 — LeBron James<br><br>453 — Michael Jordan<br>387 — Karl Malone<br>351 — Shaquille O&#39;Neal <br>297 — Kevin Durant <br>256 — Kobe Bryant <br>236 — Hakeem Olajuwan <br>230 — Stephen Curry <br>227 — Charles Barkley <br>224 — Dominique Wilkins<br>214 —… <a href="https://t.co/aYUUUqIXXi">pic.twitter.com/aYUUUqIXXi</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1663700203868930050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most Playoff buzzer beaters in NBA History:<br><br>8 — Celtics <br>8 — Lakers<br>5 — LeBron James<br>5 — Cavaliers <br>4 — Bulls<br>4 — Wizards<br>3 — Rockets<br>2 — Blazers<br>2 — Mavericks <br>2 — Heat<br>2 — Bucks<br>2 — Raptors <br>2 — Jazz<br>2 — Thunder <br>1 — Kings<br>1 — Pacers<br>1 — Suns<br>1 — Clippers <br>1 — Hawks<br>0 —… <a href="https://t.co/2Ys9AcAfjU">pic.twitter.com/2Ys9AcAfjU</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1662891804075892741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You have literally become the Knowmo of this thread.

LMAO Lebron got swept and KCC just can't cope. Poor guy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video with <a href="https://twitter.com/The_ChrisMyers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@The_ChrisMyers</a> appears to be from 1997, as it references Jordan being away for two years.<br><br>If Phil Jackson thought Pippen was more complete than MJ, he had to think LeBron &gt; Jordan <a href="https://t.co/07jS7J11V7">pic.twitter.com/07jS7J11V7</a></p>&mdash; Jason McIntyre (@jasonrmcintyre) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonrmcintyre/status/1660824369462145024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Makes sense.

:rolleyes:
Wtf, dude? You're now off the rails, through the fence, across the field and into the next county with this shit. This is all-the-way-into-and-up-to-your chin in Knowmo's bunghole territory for you now.


Maybe less drugs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REMINDER: Lebron&#39;s had more help than any athlete history. Besides the stars he quit on other teams to join, LBJ&#39;s teams since 2010, have made 84 trades to help HIM. <br><br>PERSPECTIVE:<br>From 1987-98, Jordan&#39;s Bulls traded 10 players<br>Warriors have traded 40(+/-) in Steph&#39;s career<br><br>84. <a href="https://t.co/eIxTsUj4Li">pic.twitter.com/eIxTsUj4Li</a></p>&mdash; �� Yo Boy Got swept AGAIN! �� (@ApexJones22) <a href="https://twitter.com/ApexJones22/status/1663613795564920839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxeinQ2W...g&name=900x900

So Miami has a chance?

Phil Jackson is the one who said it. Now admittedly he might have actually been on drugs at the time.

I really see no way that the Heat can win this series, but I'll be intently watching tomorrow night to witness the unthinkable.

Also, does Herro not want to play? Says his hand is still "sore". I don't really like that in a player. I'd want my guy to be clawing to get out there ASAP. Now if I'm a Heat fan I don't know that I want him to play, though. They've been better without him but you aren't gonna shoot 43% every series.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Expansion Era Champion<br>0 trips to the finals in the 1980s<br>0 trips to the finals in the 2000s<br><br>Must have been tough winning when you always had the BEST team.<br><br>Guess thats why he quit in 98.<br><br>Knew he&#39;d get smoked without the BEST team.<br><br>QUITTER INSTINCT <a href="https://t.co/M3IpegjBpK">pic.twitter.com/M3IpegjBpK</a></p>&mdash; Uncovering the Truth (@shendy456) <a href="https://twitter.com/shendy456/status/1664012205375856641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't like Herro as a player at all anyway (and I would suggest they haven't been hurt at all by his absence because it makes them a much better defensive team). Eventually their lack of scoring will catch up to them though.

Honestly if the Heat win Spolstra needs to be given more credit for being a top HC.

Mmm, no. You posted it, so you obviously are in agreeance with it.

But then you decided to interpret it in order to slant it more to your argument. which lands you firmly in Flat-Earther territory.:thumb:

This shit's just getting dumb now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Myth: LeBron is the Best All-Around Player <br><br>Reality: He has been a traffic cone on defense the majority of his career. Only 5 defensive teams! Terrible! <br><br>How can you be considered “The Best All-Around” when you’re terrible at half the game? <a href="https://t.co/mPD2ljrHdR">pic.twitter.com/mPD2ljrHdR</a></p>&mdash; Olympic Bean (@olympicbean) <a href="https://twitter.com/olympicbean/status/1664032959182110722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxfV2htX...jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxfV2iOX...pg&name=medium

Just because I post something, it doesn't mean I agree with every aspect of it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">51-8-8 in the NBA Finals as a -1075 underdog, and it’s not even his best performance on this day in history. <a href="https://t.co/Vpbt0ehU1k">pic.twitter.com/Vpbt0ehU1k</a></p>&mdash; LeBron History �� (@bronhistory) <a href="https://twitter.com/bronhistory/status/1663913793246699522?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Down 3-2 legacy on the line, Lebron drops 45 points 15 rebounds 5 assist in the garden on 19-26 shooting<br><br>Greatest player of all time. <a href="https://t.co/FkRFRXjhMj">https://t.co/FkRFRXjhMj</a> <a href="https://t.co/8OkVZTvrx7">pic.twitter.com/8OkVZTvrx7</a></p>&mdash; َ (@HoodiGuWop) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoodiGuWop/status/1662975252773601281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SOOO this is the 2023 NBA thread and we have both teams for the Finals and some how we have a circle jerk about LeBron being posted.

LeBron is one of the great players of this game! NOW lets get on with the finals of this 2023 season.

I'd like to see the Nuggets win one finally but I also like the idea of the underdog Heat just going all the way. I will be rooting for the Heat and expect the Nuggets to win out. IF Miami wins they have to be one of the best teams in a long time. They have beaten top seed talent while barely getting in to the playoff scenario. Really a great run overall.

Jason Terry LMAO

And the same Bosh, who KCC talks so much shit on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron vs Jordan Finals competition:<br><br>Warriors Jazz<br>Warriors Jazz<br>Warriors SuperSonics <br>Warriors Suns<br>Spurs Blazers<br>Spurs Lakers<br>Spurs <br>Heat <br>Mavericks <br>Thunder <a href="https://t.co/k1he4UU0nT">pic.twitter.com/k1he4UU0nT</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1661537810476843009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's quite something when you compare it to the plumbers and janitors era.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron James won 31 playoff series from 2011 to 2020.<br><br>Michael Jordan won 30 playoff series in his entire career. <a href="https://t.co/gRxDyhCvOv">pic.twitter.com/gRxDyhCvOv</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1661432764493893633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeBron is now the 1st player in NBA Playoffs history to reach 8k career points:<br><br>8,023 — LeBron James<br><br>5,987 — Michael Jordan<br>5,762 — K. Abdul-Jabbar <br>5,640 — Kobe Bryant <br>5,250 — Shaquille O&#39;Neal <br>5,172 — Tim Duncan <br>4,878 — Kevin Durant <a href="https://t.co/abmxETN7EL">pic.twitter.com/abmxETN7EL</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1660852414709219329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GOAT stuff.

That's debatable.

You know that first tweet doesn't mean much. It's like holding playoff wins against Mahomes because his team is always the #1 seed and not playing three games before playing in the SB.

Please change is name to knowmo connection. Mods?

Feels like this is the Heats best chance to steal one in Denver. Denver has had so much time off they might come out a tad bit rusty.

Interesting

GOAT STUFF? ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxgPCcIa...g&name=900x900

Oof. Kenpom boy sure lied and pretended he didn't know this

https://i.imgur.com/2wwH7ep.jpg

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This settles the LeBron James vs Michael Jordan GOAT debate. <br><br>LeBron �� — Jordan —<br>19x All-Star ✅️ 14x All-Star ��<br>19x All-NBA ✅️ 11x All-NBA ��<br>4x Champ ✅️ 6x Champ ��<br>10x Finals ✅️ 6x Finals ��<br>4x FMVP ✅️… <a href="https://t.co/xGV03b4UgM">pic.twitter.com/xGV03b4UgM</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1662203668240924674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It’s pretty laughable how wide the gulf is at this point.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/UNL0VKLjYE">pic.twitter.com/UNL0VKLjYE</a></p>&mdash; LeBron Muse (@BronMuse) <a href="https://twitter.com/BronMuse/status/1662205502569459712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And following up on the point Phil Jackson made yesterday.

More pathetic than inventing titles like we saw you do

What is this 'inventing titles' talk?

This doesn't even make sense. Four titles is better than six!!! ROFL

GOATS don't get outscored by Jason ****ing Terry. EVER.

Pasta is bringing KU's national title in 2020 into an NBA thread.

So you are saying Lebron is better because of more All Star game appearances despite him playing more seasons?

Huh? They don't have a title from 2020?

True. Denver knocking off the LA Fightin' Lebrons so quickly gave them a ton of rest and they very well could be rusty, but at the same time Miami might struggle some after coming down from the emotional high of Game 7.

Yup, which is why I think Denver ultimately wins.

They should as they are the better team. They are getting one of the easiest opponents they could get for this finals. I will say that Butler is a beast and Spolestra is an underrated coach. I would not be shocked to see it go 6 or 7 games.

You clearly missed the tweet about their respective competition in those Finals from yesterday. The clear implication there is that some titles (i.e. beating a 73 win team coming back down from 3-1) are worth much more than others.

He thinks both LeBron and KU didn't win titles in 2020 because it was the COVID year. Bizarre logic.

Greater, yes. The argument is "GOAT." If you want to have an argument about "BOAT," that would be completely separate.

KU didn't win a title in 2020 though. They aren't recognized as 2020 champions and Kansas doesn't even claim to be 2020 champion's

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Because his dumbass thinks it actually happened. I even gave him the Bubble Bron win that many don't think is legit either

Oh and what 2020 national title ROFL ROFL

He also posted a link with a green check mark for LeBron having 4 titles over Jordan's 6. He's sick in the head. Hence inventing titles.

KU finished #1 in the AP Poll in 2020, did they not?

Better start taking away football championships from NCAAF programs for nearly a century then, I guess.

Huh? They aren't recognized in any official capacity or claim to be 2020 champions. That's a pretty laughable apples to oranges comparison you pulled out there.

How is it apples to oranges? In the absence of a postseason tournament in football (which is a relatively new invention), NCAAF teams who were at the top of the polls were considered national champions for nearly a century.

If you aren't recognizing KU in the same way for 2020, you better start telling those schools to stop it.

Good lord that's pathetic ROFL

2 championships in 4 years. What a time to be a Jayhawk.

In rules that were well established before the season. The season was canceled in 2020 as the tournament is the only thing that matters in deciding a champion.Burrito Bill doesn't even acknowledge it. Sorry you lose

That gives them credit for their accomplishment. Finished #1 in the AP poll. Great. That's not how the NCAA determines champions in basketball and even the School knows that. Hence why they don't claim that as a championship season.