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BryanBusby 07-27-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 15758961)
ACC makes a lot of sense for Kansas, although it’s going to be a lot tougher sledding there than in the Big XII, and the travel will be rough.

No reason whatsoever for UK to leave the SEC.

It would be a step down unless the ACC has some clause that would allow them to tear up that TV deal. That's without including the increased travel costs for all sports.

Eleazar 07-27-2021 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15758621)

That’s the funniest damn thing I’ve seen in a long time

Chief Pagan 07-27-2021 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15758944)
Duke and UNC will still always be the darlings of that conference.

Uh huh...

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Prison Bitch 07-28-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15758957)
I do not believe UK has any interest in leaving the SEC currently.

Not currently


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Plus, a large draw for recruits coming to UK in football is to play in the SEC.
Literally nobody cares about Kentucky football.

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It makes no sense for the school to change affiliations. Alumni would not be happy and I think there's something to be said within the state as to looking down as Louisville as inferior-meaning whatever conference that Louisville is in, by default, is inferior to whatever UK is in because it has Louisville in it.

SEC will generate more revenue than the ACC.

Also, **** Louisville.
The only issue to be worked out is getting Vandy and you to walk away from the larger SEC payouts. Not sure it’s workable.

Rams Fan 07-28-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15759343)
Not currently




Literally nobody cares about Kentucky football.

The only issue to be worked out is getting Vandy and you to walk away from the larger SEC payouts. Not sure it’s workable.

Stoops is pulling in top 30 recruiting classes with a decent amount of his pull coming from Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida along with going toe-to-toe with Ohio St. in Ohio as well as beating Clemson, Ohio St., and Alabama for the best LT prospect in this upcoming recruiting class from just outside of Louisville. Stoops and staff sell their recruits on getting to play in the SEC and being a 6 hour drivable distance from their family.

The university has also invested significantly in improving the program(new training facility, stadium was renovated significantly in the past 10 years, and they invest heavily in Stoops and his staff).

All of that progress would be heavily impacted with going to the ACC.

And there's literally no financial incentive to leave. Kentucky is one of, if not the, highest revenue generating basketball programs in the country. And it's still out earned by football. Moving to the ACC won't change that fact on top of the ACC contract not being nearly as lucrative as the SEC.

ChiefsCountry 07-28-2021 12:28 PM

Kentucky isn't Kansas. They actually do give a damn about their football program.

duncan_idaho 07-28-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15759824)
Stoops is pulling in top 30 recruiting classes with a decent amount of his pull coming from Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida along with going toe-to-toe with Ohio St. in Ohio as well as beating Clemson, Ohio St., and Alabama for the best LT prospect in this upcoming recruiting class from just outside of Louisville. Stoops and staff sell their recruits on getting to play in the SEC and being a 6 hour drivable distance from their family.

The university has also invested significantly in improving the program(new training facility, stadium was renovated significantly in the past 10 years, and they invest heavily in Stoops and his staff).

All of that progress would be heavily impacted with going to the ACC.

And there's literally no financial incentive to leave. Kentucky is one of, if not the, highest revenue generating basketball programs in the country. And it's still out earned by football. Moving to the ACC won't change that fact on top of the ACC contract not being nearly as lucrative as the SEC.

Yeah. There's been absolutely zero chatter I've ever seen about Kentucky leaving the SEC, and it doesn't make any sense.

The model Stoops has used at Kentucky is the same one Drinkwitz is now rolling with at Mizzou. Successful so far.

And that's a model where, if you do get the stars to align, you can actually get into the playoff. Just need to have that difference-making QB to pull it all together.

ChiefsCountry 07-28-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15759877)
Yeah. There's been absolutely zero chatter I've ever seen about Kentucky leaving the SEC, and it doesn't make any sense.

The model Stoops has used at Kentucky is the same one Drinkwitz is now rolling with at Mizzou. Successful so far.

And that's a model where, if you do get the stars to align, you can actually get into the playoff. Just need to have that difference-making QB to pull it all together.

Hasn't Kentucky been going into Ohio and selling the non-Ohio State recruits to come play in the SEC?

Prison Bitch 07-28-2021 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15759862)
Kentucky isn't Kansas. They actually do give a damn about their football program.


Why tho? KY football sucks ass.


504-563 all time - sure sounds a lot like Kansas’ 530-635.


I’m sure some meth’d out hillbillies go to their games. But nobody with a brain cares about any of these bottom feeders.

Rams Fan 07-28-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15759862)
Kentucky isn't Kansas. They actually do give a damn about their football program.

The difference is that Kentucky within the past 10 years or so has really started to spend money on football dating back to before Stoops(more-so in part of the Rich Brooks era leading into Joker Phillips).

We have a very passionate football base, as passionate as basketball, but not as large.

Kentucky will never be a national power in recruiting, but can be a large one regionally. Stoops is a great coach and I don't think he'd leave anytime soon given his contract structure(it auto-renews if he wins 6 games on top of bonuses for additional wins, bowl games, etc). The pressure is low and as long as the team is bowl eligible with an occasional appearance in Atlanta(that should be a realistic expectation now), the program will be where it should be realistic expectations wise.

If Kentucky is basically what Mizzou was for the majority of Pinkel's tenure, a lot of people will be happy.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15759877)
Yeah. There's been absolutely zero chatter I've ever seen about Kentucky leaving the SEC, and it doesn't make any sense.

The model Stoops has used at Kentucky is the same one Drinkwitz is now rolling with at Mizzou. Successful so far.

And that's a model where, if you do get the stars to align, you can actually get into the playoff. Just need to have that difference-making QB to pull it all together.

Yes. I think Mizzou has a higher ceiling program wise given the in-state recruiting advantages with KC and STL, but very similar overall.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15759885)
Hasn't Kentucky been going into Ohio and selling the non-Ohio State recruits to come play in the SEC?

Yes, which is why they're getting recruits.

Stoops is basically doing a better job at recruiting out of Ohio now than when Pinkel was recruiting in Texas for a majority of his time in CoMo. And he's also getting really high ranked (4*) recruits over Ohio St. Him and Vince Marrow are kicking ass there.

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15759888)
Why tho? KY football sucks ass.


504-563 all time - sure sounds a lot like Kansas’ 530-635.


I’m sure some meth’d out hillbillies go to their games. But nobody with a brain cares about any of these bottom feeders.

Because there's no school in the state that competes with Kentucky historically in terms of popularity. None. Louisville is a joke. They are little brother in the Bluegrass. And no one outside of Louisville cares about them.

Additionally, Kentucky was somewhat decent back in the day before a span of 30 years of being mediocre to bad.

Kiimo 07-28-2021 12:45 PM

I know some coaches on the Chiefs who care about Kentucky football

Rams Fan 07-28-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15759898)
I know some coaches on the Chiefs who care about Kentucky football

Matt House ended up helping Stoops turn the program around tremendously.

He (Stoops) had to take over playcalling from D.J. Elliott(current DC at KU) in 2016 because of how bad the team was performing. Stoops would have likely lost his job during that season.

The two biggest differences between Kansas and Kentucky football currently are the following:
1. Kentucky gave Stoops time to build his program and he's actually started producing results, showing that he's been a decent-to-good hire at Kentucky. And has had better results than any coach since Mangino at Kansas.
2. Kentucky is spending a lot of money on improving the facilities. I'm unsure about if that's the case at KU.

Also, a lot of this has to do with overall stability within the athletic department with Barnhart. I'm unsure if there's any Power 5 school that has had all 3 of their basketball, football coach, and AD in place as long as Kentucky has.

KChiefs1 07-28-2021 01:15 PM

New Conference re-alignment thread
 
I never thought Stoops would turn around UK football but he proved me wrong.

The Mizzou vs Kentucky game should be interesting this season.

ptlyon 07-28-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15759959)
I never thought Stoops would turn around UK football but he proved me wrong.

He stole coach Klein's playbook

ChiTown 07-28-2021 01:24 PM

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