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jd1020 07-18-2012 07:54 PM

Bowe is in his prime now. He can't afford to get hurt and he can't afford to sit out in hopes that he gets a big contract at 30 that even better guys got when they were <28.

Chiefnj2 07-18-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8751598)
no. Sorry there are VERY FEW people who 9.5 million ="shit" and Bowe isn't in that group
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Every single franchised player thinks the franchise tag and one year salary sucks. They all want long deals with more guaranteed money. Brees thought it was shit.

jd1020 07-18-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8751605)
Every single franchised player thinks the franchise tag and one year salary sucks. They all want long deals with more guaranteed money. Brees thought it was shit.

Difference between Brees and Bowe is that Brees held the cards. Chiefs might not be as good without Bowe but the Saints wouldn't be shit without Brees.

BossChief 07-18-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8751577)
He always has a choice. It's not inconceivable that he would choose to sit out rather than be jerked around with 3 years of franchise tags during the prime of his career.

It wouldn't be the first time it happened.

That would literally be the worst thing he could do.

Let's say he plays on the tag this year and sits out next year in hopes of getting a big deal after that.

You're saying he is gambling on sitting out his 29year old year in hopes of landing a mega deal as a 30 year old wide receiver?

Really?

That's what you're going with?

Pioli holds all the cards in this...pure and simple.

petegz28 07-18-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8751612)
Difference between Brees and Bowe is that Brees held the cards. Chiefs might not be as good without Bowe but the Saints wouldn't be shit without Brees.

If Bowe isn't in camp and Baldwin lights it up it may not matter

SAUTO 07-18-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8751605)
Every single franchised player thinks the franchise tag and one year salary sucks. They all want long deals with more guaranteed money. Brees thought it was shit.

I want a hundred million dollars but I would take a million if someone handed it to me
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Hammock Parties 07-18-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8751615)
Pioli holds all the cards in this...pure and simple.

What if Bowe holds out this year, and the Chiefs go 4-12?

How many cards does Pioli hold then?

petegz28 07-18-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8751634)
What if Bowe holds out this year, and the Chiefs go 4-12?

How many cards does Pioli hold then?

depends on why we go 4-12 now doesn't it?

Hammock Parties 07-18-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8751638)
depends on why we go 4-12 now doesn't it?

I'm sure our defense will collapse without Dwayne Bowe.

petegz28 07-18-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8751644)
I'm sure our defense will collapse without Dwayne Bowe.

You're doing nothing but speculating we go 4-12 purely because Bowe isn't on the team. That's just ignorant. It could be the defense collapses, injuries...you never know. We could have a stellar offense and just get outscored. Point is you are dreaming up some specific hypothetical to justify possibly over paying someone.

So what if Bowe holds out and we go to the playoffs?

jspchief 07-18-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8751615)
That would literally be the worst thing he could do.

Let's say he plays on the tag this year and sits out next year in hopes of getting a big deal after that.

You're saying he is gambling on sitting out his 29year old year in hopes of landing a mega deal as a 30 year old wide receiver?

Really?

That's what you're going with?

Pioli holds all the cards in this...pure and simple.

I'm not saying its a good idea. I'm saying it happens.

He's a guy that has been good from the day he was drafted. Probably outplayed his rookie contract when it comes down to it. Never been in trouble, no injuries, played well through a dog and pony show of coaches and QBs. Now his team, sitting on a boatload of cash earned by years of being cheap, years where he played through all those loses that came with being cheap. Now they don't want to pay him what he thinks he's worth. And you don't think there's any chance he'll take offense to that?

I don't give a shit if Pioli holds the cards. All I give a shit about is keeping that talent that we've accumulated throughs years of shitty seasons.

O.city 07-18-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8751656)
I'm not saying its a good idea. I'm saying it happens.

He's a guy that has been good from the day he was drafted. Probably outplayed his rookie contract when it comes down to it. Never been in trouble, no injuries, played well through a dog and pony show of coaches and QBs. Now his team, sitting on a boatload of cash earned by years of being cheap, years where he played through all those loses that came with being cheap. Now they don't want to pay him what he thinks he's worth. And you don't think there's any chance he'll take offense to that?

I don't give a shit if Pioli holds the cards. All I give a shit about is keeping that talent that we've accumulated throughs years of shitty seasons.

I do agree, but he was suspended due to a banned substance and the whole importing thing.

Hammock Parties 07-18-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8751655)
So what if Bowe holds out and we go to the playoffs?

The CFL playoffs?

petegz28 07-18-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8751671)
The CFL playoffs?

Yeah that's what I thought....

Hammock Parties 07-18-2012 08:21 PM

You seriously believe we could make the playoffs without Dwayne Bowe.

This, after the 2010 team made the playoffs by one game with Bowe going Godzilla on everyone.


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