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Rausch 01-18-2013 01:36 PM

The only thing I believe is that I don't believe a ****ing thing ND or KO'd are spewing...

Unsmooth-Moment 01-18-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9330948)
You are a dumbass

Excellent point. That sheds more light on the situation with Manti Teo.

Joe_Camel 01-18-2013 02:00 PM

Do you believe that she didn't know?
 
Inside Edition says it has IDed the face of Kekua, 23-year-old Diane O'Meara. According to KCAL9 in California, O'Meara currently works in marketing in Los Angeles. That tidbit combined with earlier reports that she is friends with Tuiasosopo have some suggesting that she may have played an active role in the entire thing, although that remains to be seen. Her silence could just as easily be a result of her being unprepared for the media attention after having her identity originally shielded by Deadspin when she recounted how her pictures were used without her knowledge, like in the case of this Inside Edition crew that caught up with her outside of her place of work:

Te'o may not have been the only one to "date" the fictional Kekua, according to Catfish director Ariel Schulman. ABC News:

"Catfish" movie director and actor Ariel Schulman told "Good Morning America" today that he believes there may have been "a few other people duped by the fake Lennay character." Schulman and his brother Nev Schulman have been looking into the elaborate scam and claim to be corresponding with various players involved. They have come to believe that there were "a lot of other people that she was corresponding with before and maybe even during her relationship [with Te'o]."
Obviously, it's still way too early to make heads or tails out of the whole thing. For now, everyone seems to agree that it was a hoax. But when it comes to exactly what role Te'o—and even O'Meara—played in this whole thing, your guess is as good as mine until we finally hear from the major players. When that will happen remains to be seen.

http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/the_sl...j1.-k5cmBFGDPM

silver5liter 01-18-2013 02:06 PM

Knew this bullshit would happen. Person takes all the blame. There is no way in hell that Teo wasnt in on this thing.

Window Licking Whiner 01-18-2013 03:06 PM

Mormons **** they are weird.

The Mormon thing makes me know that he is in on it.

Mormons pretend to be happy and can create elaborate lies. They will defend them to the dn (ie his family saying all these things to support teo).

Mormons don't have that bone that says 'shit I should just come clean' even if the whole world has video or whatever, they will keep peddling their lives forever.

I think teo and this other dude are lovers, one of them came up with te idea, that teo could tell te world how he feels for his gay bf but through this fictitious girl. Every time he said something in reference to this girl, it was directed at his lover.

Once the lies began to get harder to keep due to his heisman desires, they came up with the whole lets kill her ff thing, that should get me some extra votes. This is the exact thing a Mormon would do.

Rausch 01-18-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 9331220)
Mormons **** they are weird.

LMAO

splatbass 01-18-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 9331220)
Mormons **** they are weird.

The Mormon thing makes me know that he is in on it.

Mormons pretend to be happy and can create elaborate lies. They will defend them to the dn (ie his family saying all these things to support teo).

Mormons don't have that bone that says 'shit I should just come clean' even if the whole world has video or whatever, they will keep peddling their lives forever.

I think teo and this other dude are lovers, one of them came up with te idea, that teo could tell te world how he feels for his gay bf but through this fictitious girl. Every time he said something in reference to this girl, it was directed at his lover.

Once the lies began to get harder to keep due to his heisman desires, they came up with the whole lets kill her ff thing, that should get me some extra votes. This is the exact thing a Mormon would do.

And what are you basing this on? Bedsides bigotry, I mean? Do you have any statistics showing that Mormons lie more than anyone else?

I've known quite a few, including one that was my boss for 10 years, and that isn't my experience at all. The ones I've known are pretty honest, straightforward people.

Window Licking Whiner 01-18-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9331318)
And what are you basing this on? Bedsides bigotry, I mean? Do you have any statistics showing that Mormons lie more than anyone else?

I've known quite a few, including one that was my boss for 10 years, and that isn't my experience at all. The ones I've known are pretty honest, straightforward people.

Actually i've known quite a few mormons. I almost married one once. I have extensive experience with mormons, the facade of thier 'family unit' and the mormon legal bastion of Utah. So yeah I know more than you.

Rausch 01-18-2013 03:55 PM

So you're saying we shouldn't take this guy no 1 overall?...

Sorter 01-18-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9331331)
So you're saying we shouldn't take this guy no 1 overall?...

I say we use this years and somehow give away next two years 1sts for Te'o. ROFL

Rausch 01-18-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9331345)
I say we use this years and somehow give away next two years 1sts for Te'o. ROFL

*slap!*

Say that agian!

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Sorter 01-18-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9331348)

:D

Fish 01-18-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 9331220)
Mormons **** they are weird.

The Mormon thing makes me know that he is in on it.

Mormons pretend to be happy and can create elaborate lies. They will defend them to the dn (ie his family saying all these things to support teo).

Mormons don't have that bone that says 'shit I should just come clean' even if the whole world has video or whatever, they will keep peddling their lives forever.

I think teo and this other dude are lovers, one of them came up with te idea, that teo could tell te world how he feels for his gay bf but through this fictitious girl. Every time he said something in reference to this girl, it was directed at his lover.

Once the lies began to get harder to keep due to his heisman desires, they came up with the whole lets kill her ff thing, that should get me some extra votes. This is the exact thing a Mormon would do.

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warpaint* 01-18-2013 04:23 PM

Whitlock

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...lfriend-011813

The media-led disbelief regarding Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick’s decision to go “all in” with Manti Te’o is quite hysterical, equally disingenuous and embarrassingly hypocritical.

Why would Swarbrick go all in defending Te’o if the star linebacker were not the innocent victim of a cruel hoax?

For the same damn reason the sports media went all in with Te’o for the past four months! For the same damn reason the sports media have gone all in with college football’s shamateurism lie for the past 25 years!


IRISH LIES
Te'o dead girlfriend story a hoax
Mastermind behind hoax ID'd?
AD tells Te'o to speak soon
Deadspin writer on FOX Sports Radio
Couch: Truth is, an icon falls
Could NFL Draft stock plummet?
Heisman voter: I was duped
Hometown backs Te'o in hoax
Video: How did this happen?
Swarbrick’s reasoning and actions are not hard to comprehend. He, everyone at Notre Dame, everyone drawing a six- or seven-figures-plus salary working within big-time college football and basketball have been living an absolute lie for more than a quarter of a century.

Lies begat lies. They stack on top of each other until they form what comedic pundit Jon Stewart calls “Bull$--t Mountain.” At the moment, Manti Te’o and Lennay Kekua sit perched atop Bull$--t Mountain. They scaled it with the enthusiastic support of Swarbrick, Brian Kelly, Notre Dame and college football’s media partners, the watchdogs and enforcers of the NCAA’s amateur lie.

Lying is easy when you’re living one. No institution is living a bigger lie than Notre Dame. The Golden Dome believes it can live up to its religious ideals while participating in the systematic financial exploitation of young people.

Let me remind you of Walter Byers’ confession. Byers, a white, conservative from Kansas, created the modern NCAA and wrote these words in his 1997 memoir “Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Exploiting the Student-Athlete:”

“Today the NCAA Presidents Commission is preoccupied with tightening a few loose bolts in a worn machine, firmly committed to the neo-plantation belief that the enormous proceeds from college games belong to the overseers (administrators) and supervisors (coaches). The plantation workers performing in the arena may only receive those benefits authorized by the overseers.”

That’s not the race card played by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or me. That’s unvarnished truth from the owner of the plantation.

Notre Dame is the primary institution preventing the media and many sports fans from grappling with that truth. No institution sells the mythical benefits of amateurism more effectively than Notre Dame.


Manti Te’o was 2012’s poster child. He was pre-Thanksgiving Tiger Woods, pre-New York Jets Tim Tebow and pre-Bo Jackson Brian Bosworth rolled into a magnificent Hawaiian lei.

NBC, ESPN, CBS, FOX Sports, Sports Illustrated and the South Bend Tribune found Te’o as irresistible as Swarbrick, Kelly and the Notre Dame priest who thought he’d met Lennay Kekua when she visited South Bend. (Via Twitter I campaigned for Te’o to win the Heisman.)

Te’o did everything the right way. He went to class. He was an inspirational locker-room leader. He visited sick children in the hospital. He was polite and kind to his non-athlete classmates. And, when he wasn’t turning water into wine, Te’o spent hours upon hours talking on the phone with his Stanford-graduate girlfriend who was injured in a car accident, diagnosed with leukemia and died within hours of Te’o’s beloved grandmother.

Te’o was the anti-Cam Newton, the anti-Honey Badger, and Sports Illustrated’s Pete Thamel and Thayer Evans, the Batman and Robin of NCAA shamateurism enforcement, could not contain their delight in holding Te’o up as the symbol of what is right about college sports. Thamel, writing around multiple red flags, penned a doozy of a tale about Te’o and his mythical secret lover for the Oct. 1 edition of SI. A day later, ESPN’s Gene Wojciechowski talked around all the same red flags in his video essay of Te’o and his mythical secret lover. Playing catchup, the South Bend Tribune’s Eric Hansen added remarkable detail to his Romeo-and-Juliet Lite narrative that ran on Oct. 12.

And we’re wondering why Swarbrick is all in with Te’o? Swarbrick is no different from the media who have been all in with Notre Dame and the amateur lie for decades. Swarbrick went all in with Brian Kelly when Kelly’s negligence led to the death of student videographer Declan Sullivan. Check and see how many of Notre Dame/college football’s media partners attempted to hold Kelly and Swarbrick accountable for Sullivan, who was killed when he fell off a scissor lift while filming a ND practice in extreme weather conditions. A child died due to the gross negligence of the head coach and the NCAA’s volunteer media enforcement staff was too busy chasing down stories about boosters and “street agents” giving poor kids cash and buying them drinks at strip clubs.


No one is challenging Notre Dame. In 2010, a 19-year-old woman committed suicide allegedly after being sexually molested by an ND football player and subsequently harassed by his teammates. In 2011, the alleged perpetrator was cleared of all wrongdoing.

And guess what? Remarkably the star of Notre Dame’s 2012 team just happens to be an angel who falls in love with a young woman who is dying of leukemia. Who helped sell that game-changing narrative? For Notre Dame and supporters of the amateur myth, Manti Te’o, lover of Lennay Kekua, is a better story than Lizzy Seeberg, the child suicide victim.

Why is Swarbrick all in?

He has no other choice. Te’o’s teammates and the kids on ND’s campus have been gossiping for months that the Kekua story was bogus. If you think no one on that team, no kid on that campus, no parent of a player ever said anything to Kelly, his assistants or Swarbrick about the spotlight-stealing Kekua story, then you know absolutely nothing about the politics of team sports.

You’ll never convince me Dec. 26 is the first time Swarbrick and Kelly heard Kekua was a fraud. Swarbrick is handcuffed to Te’o. If Swarbrick abandons him, he risks Te’o (and Te’o’s overzealous father) telling all that he knows. Te’o, as we now know, is a marvelous salesman.

Te’o claims he first heard on Dec. 6 that Kekua was a fraud. He waited 20 days to tell Kelly and Swarbrick. Te’o conducted multiple interviews without correcting the lie. And now, beyond a written statement that thanked everyone -- except his teammates -- for their support, he is silent, working out in Florida in preparation for the draft.

ESPN/ABC reportedly heard before the BCS championship that Kekua was a fake (ESPN has denied the report). So when did Thamel, Wojciechowski and Hansen hear?

The inspiring kids at Deadspin figured out the fraud within a couple of days of hearing it. But the journalists at the top of our profession who helped promote the myth couldn’t unravel it in four months? You think no one ever emailed, tweeted or called them with suspicions? And you think Swarbrick is the only one all in with Manti Te’o?

Everyone associated with the lie of amateurism is all in with Manti Te’o. Look at the media. Our biggest complaint about big-time college football is that there is no playoff system. In the era of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (concussions), we’re campaigning for more games, more money, more exploitation.

To justify our hypocrisy, we need more Manti Te’os.

DaneMcCloud 01-18-2013 05:29 PM

Holy ****:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...24--ncaaf.html

Lennay Kekua told Manti Te’o she faked her death to evade drug dealers

Just when we all thought the story of Manti Te’o’s fake/dead girlfriend couldn’t get any weirder, it, well, does.

The Honolulu Star-Advertiser posted a story Friday saying Te’o's fictitious girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, called Te’o on Dec. 6 and told he she faked her death to evade drug dealers.

And we're officially off the rails.

Te’o and Kekua had been dating since 2011 when Kekua supposedly passed away in September after a short bout with leukemia. Te’o, heartbroken, used several media outlets to tell the story of his girlfriend and the inspiration she provided him, but said this week he did not know she did not exist. He did acknowledge that their relationship was online and on the phone and that he had never actually met Kekua in person.

So, imagine Te’o’s surprise when Kekua, who has been dead for nearly three months, calls Te’o and tells him her tale of woe.

According to the article, Kekua – or whoever the person is posing as Kekua – tried to start the relationship back up again, but Te’o was leery of it. He asked Kekua to send him a photo with a date stamp on it so he could verify that was really her. She sent him the photo, but it was not enough to convince him. In the following weeks, he went to his family and coaches and told them he had been the victim of a hoax that began in 2009.

Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick confirmed Wednesday that Te’o did receive a call on Dec. 6 from a woman he thought to be his deceased girlfriend. Swarbrick also said after the initial call, there were subsequent attempts to restart the relationship.

It’s difficult to imagine which way this story is going to turn next. Whoever was impersonating Kekua must have had a reason to want to try to restart the relationship knowing it would be risky and Te’o might finally – after three years – find out it was all a scam.

Unfortunately, with Te’o not talking and lot of questions still floating around about Kekua, Te’o’s involvement in the hoax and Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the alleged perpetrator of the hoax, we might never know what really happened.


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