Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17967581)

They still have Chris Jones for a couple more years, Trent, Karlaftis and will likely keep Bolton.

Nobody is saying not to put resources into the defense. They need use this draft for the offense like what the used the 2022 draft for the defense

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17967601)

Pretty sure our 1st, 3rd, and 2026 1st could get us to around 15. I know you'll say that picking players around 15 isn't really any different than players taken late in the 1st, but just hear me out. I have no clue who they like yet or what their grades will be on specific players, but let's say they like Conerly and/or Ersery and see them as a long term solution but that they will also need some development time this season. You wouldn't do that? That's not "more than we gave up to get Mahomes".

I think this claim that draft picks taken at OT outside of the top 10 are no different than those taken late 1st or the 2nd is disengenuous. You probably could make the claim that WRs taken late 1st are not much better than those taken in the 2nd/3rd round, but that didn't stop KC from trading up for someone like Worthy. KC clearly liked Worthy and they went and got him, end of story. Will he end up being significantly better or even better at all than McConkey? Maybe not, but they found their guy and made the move. Why would they not take that same stance at LT if they identify a specific player that is the most likely to succeed here and provide a solution for our line problems?

Doing a bit of analysis where starting left tackles come from, yes they absolutely generally come from the top 10 for the most part. You have a handful of decent looking tackles that have been taken outside of the top 10 like Tristan Wirfs, Kolton Miller, Garrett Bolles, Taylor Decker, and Christian Darrisaw. I'm guessing Mims in Cincy may eventually join that list. DJ Humphries was a good left tackle for a while (when healthy), he was taken 24th.

Starting left tackles taken outside the 1st include Dawkins, Mailata, Armstead, Raimann, Walker, Coleman, and Little.

So outside of taking a left tackle top 10 where they are the most likely to be a sure thing, the highest concentration of starting left tackles in a particular part of the draft is those taken from around the 13-25 range of rd 1. Then you have a handful of decent or promising left tackles taken in the 2nd/3rd or the 7th. There don't really appear to be much in the way of left tackles taken currently in the 4-6 rd range.

So again, I would argue that a tackle taken in the 13-25 range of the 1st rd absolutely does have a higher chance of developing than someone in the 2nd-3rd rd.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967633)

I liked the part where our OL gave up zero sacks to a stacked Eagles defense in a Super Bowl and put up 38 points.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17967742)

PFF has Cam Robinson projected for $18.75M/yr over 3 years.

Yeah I’d do that. Backload it to the 3rd year with a clean way out and we good

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967835)

The GM prior to Beane had a hell of a draft in 2017.

Grabbed the Left Tackle Dion Dawkins with a 3rd round pick a year before they drafted Josh.


We haven't hit on any of the tackles we drafted in the last 7 years.

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17967860)

Last 7 years? Try 11 years.

I know this isn’t the primary point of this thread, but the fact that Andy Heck doesn’t get more criticism and somehow isn’t in the hot seat is really surprising to me. I understand LT is hard to find. How about a RT? Shouldn’t be nearly that hard to find a single damn tackle of any kind. I’m sure the blame is shared between the scouting department and coaching but regardless of who is the primary culprit that is simply inexcusable.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967851)

And it still doesn't address the position in 2025, which is the entire premise of this thread.

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17967870)

It’s more palatable IMO to deal with subpar play if you at least have some hope on the horizon. As i’ve stated before, sign Humphries or Jedrick Wills and add someone like Conerly/Ersery. You’re set for 2025 and have competition and multiple options to ideally have answers at potentially both LT and RT in 2026 and beyond.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17967879)

7 years? 11 yesrs? The Chiefs didn't even have a need at OT until after the Bucs SB. They had both OTs fall apart in the same season, and at ages where you aren't necessarily expecting it. Eric Fisher was in the same ****ing draft class as Lane Johnson.

The OT discourse is so reminiscent of the WR discourse.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17967879)

7 years? 11 years? The Chiefs didn't even have a need at OT until after the Bucs SB. They had both OTs fall apart in the same season, and at ages where you aren't necessarily expecting it. Eric Fisher was in the same ****ing draft class as Lane Johnson.

The OT discourse is so reminiscent of the WR discourse.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17967886)

Or reminiscent of the OT discourse we've had pretty much every year since Fisher and Schwartz went down.

Nothing being said right now is any different than 2 years ago or 4 years ago. We are still looking and we are still drafting in the 30's every year

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17967856)

The field conditions had something to do with that. Players on both sides were on skates. Had these games been switched it would have made more sense.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17967889)

Bad luck for Kansas City at this LT spot, that's for sure.