Yes jokes about something that kills people how grown up of you

You're still not being specific.


Your validation is somewhat...insufficient. Do you have any numbers, videos, graphs, or gifs to support your claims?

If Geno Smith was a ****ing embarrassment to the position he'd get rightly criticized.

Quarterbacks are given time. OTs get less grace period, and even less when they're at the bottom of their respective position group.

I just go by what I see

Though I don't go into the games to say Look how horrible Fisher is

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You should. It's really quite remarkable what a waste of a pick he has thus proven to be.

Sort of like wiping your ass with a million dollar bill.

Excellent. Do keep up the good work!

Good Lord...

Unlike you I don't go into a game hoping for anyone on the team to fail so I can say told you so because I'm a chiefs fan not a child like you people

It's not that I couldn't argue with your impeccable* logic, it's just that I have much more fun toying with the thin-skinned bitch of a noob.


*denotes sarcasm.

Something to back up my claims

Since I'm not allowed to post links I tried you go to espn Offensive line rankings we are ranked 18th with more neg plays on the left side then the right.

Who conducts the ranking/evaluation?

Does it account for pass vs. run?
How does it rank plays involving pulling guards (if you rank the SS low and the PG high, do you get a balance or neutral ranking?)
Does it account for failed responsibilities + effective play (i.e 68 pro and off tackle has a bad cut but still slows down DE for ball to get out without altering platform?)

Matt, do you know what a run-on sentence is?

my mistake it was nfl.com rankings and

nfl.com/stats/categorystats?role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&tabSeq=2

You can see for yourself though o line stats seem to be hard to fine I guess not many people care about that stuff

So...

no?

*sighs*

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No it doesn't have what you listed

I am curious what percentage of plays opponents stack safeties in the box against the Chiefs and how that compares to the rest of the NFL.

I Would think quite a bit seeing that Reid runs Quick short passes and we have the Charles factor

I would think quite a bit given that Alex Smith has no capability to punish teams deep.

I haven't read much of your post but judging by your red rep bar I can only assume one thing.. Your and idiot.

Yes lets ignore that fact that Smith threw the ball downfield to Avery a bit this year. Including on the game winning drive when we were backed up in our own endzone That didn't happen

The Geno ass kisser just don't like the facts that get in there way

Yes, I have confidence that Alex Smith can put a ball in a 15 foot by 15 foot box at thirty yards. It's really too bad he can't put it in a bread box so his receiver can actually do something after catching the ball.

It's still not a threat that teams respect.

So if I were to mention Smith's getting over 11 ypc you wouldn't talk about YAC RIGHT

Do you even realize that's not good?

11 YPC is not good.

Alex ranks 27th this year in YPC.

That's our Alex!

PS - Geno ranks #2 in the NFL. I know, I know. Stud.

Maybe but the fact that he has done it show he has the capability to do it

PS. Alex has actually regressed. He was hitting 11.5 YPC in 2011 and 11.4 in 2012.

Ouchhhhhhhh

Oh the fact he is winning and is getting better? You set them strait good you set them strait real good.

11 ypc is pathetic. Especially in a system based on passes specifically designed to extract YAC in-lieu of a running game.

It's not far off from where Donovan was in Reids system that's the thing you guys don't want to talk about Reid doesn't run a AIR THE BALL out system ALex runs his coaches offense

That was 10 years ago.

The year the Eagles went to the SB, McNabb was 4th in YPC.

We done here?

That's funny, Alex has similar YPC no matter what system he seems to be running.

Yes because it's fair to look at 1 season not overall

How many playoff wins did they have with Donovan? How many trips to the AFC title game did they have with Donovan?

It might have been 10 years ago but Reids System is still his system though I'm sure he has tweaked it a bit

Matt Cassel YPC, through the years:

10.8
11.9
10.7
11.2

Guess who's back

back again

For some reason the Eagles never could make it to the AFC title game. Damn.

Ya I'm pretty sure that's because they are in the NFC

Additionally, his number of picks through 5 games in much higher than the past 2 years.


Just food for thought.

LOL Geno lovers talking about picks that's funny

Your idiocy astounds me.

Oh look, he answers his own questions - after much prompting.

You went from "I don't hate Geno. He's got some good things going for him" to "**** YOU GENO ASS KISSERS HYEEEARRRGGGHH!"

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I don't hate Geno.

I have said I think he's going to be a good not great starter

What It's I don't like is you Geno asskissers making crap up going to extremes to hate on Alex Smith and Eric Fisher because you're made you didn't get your way

Speaking of making crap up...

:rolleyes:

going to extremes? Eric Fisher has been a ****ing disaster at right tackle. That's not even hyperbole.

What have I made up? Name me 1 thing

That's you're opinion through your I hate Eric Fisher glasses. But go one pouting

Fisher has been about the same as the rest of the line. NEEDS IMPROVEMENT for sure but I won't single out a rookie who has played 4 games

The Geno haters are real mad now that he just had his best game.

I mean, can you imagine if Alex Smith went 16-20 for 3 TDs on the road against a team that was in the NFC Championship last year.

Last week was a nightmare scenario for the Alexcusers.

And you geno lovers no that if it had been Alex and not Geno you would be saying Ya but the Falcons D sucks. He has beaten up on The Bills and the Falcons Defense congrats

It's a good start for him. Something that he can build off. But he has struggled and been a turnover machine going against good defense and hell he even turned it over against the Bills Funny how 1 GREAT GAME seems to make you say I told you so against one of the worst defense in the NFL

Wrong. I have given Alex credit this year for some of the nice things he has done.

He doesn't just need improvement. He is a total liability. But you go on touting your little circular argument.

And you go on crying like a baby that you didn't get your way

What super-awesome defense has Alex Smith torched?

Maybe if Fisher shows major improvement we wont be so hard on him, but so far he hasen't shown his worth pick 1.1 yet Geno has shown would have been worth the risk.



I damn sure would like Eric Fisher be good so we don' have to waste another pick like that. FML 1.1 for a gd right tackle :#

You don't seem to get it.

We are definitely crying.

We haven't won a playoff game in twenty years because of jerkoffs who are 27th in the league in YPC and complete 58 percent of their passes.

ALL WE WANTED WAS GENO "DOWNFIELD BIG GAME" SMITH. AND WE DIDN'T GET IT. AND WE ARE VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.

None yet but he hasn't played any and the one common team they played Geno turned the ball over like mad and lost Alex beat

The only one crying here is you. And it's because your a thin-skinned bitch who comes on our board and expects everyone to respect you after you try to spoon feed us your bullshit. The culture here isn't changing. So change your tampon, and get the **** out. Don't let the aids tree hit you in the ass on the way out.

So pretty much like I said you're crying because you didn't get your way.

And All Geno has done is beat up bad defense and turned the ball over we had that the last few season how would that have made us Better?

Hummmmm

This team is 5-0 yet you're not happy?

and what bullshit?

I have stated facts that I've been called stupid for

Geno Smith was not a turnover machine in college and he has owned up to his mistakes in press and so I expect his TDs go up and his INTs go down. He is young and coachable.

I am happy. I enjoy watching football games on Sunday for a change. That doesn't mean I am going to ignore the concrete evidence in front of my face that this offense is impotent and has not sufficiently improved given the level of investment placed in it. Oh and you are called stupid, because frankly, you are being stupid.

True

And I agree his td to Int ratio should improve but he wasn't the right choice when we had a team that had the talent we did. Rookies are turnover machines. That's not a Geno thing that's a rookie QB thing.

So you expect Dorsey and Reid to say you no that talent that we have here we are going to just erase it and start over when guys like DJ and Hali are getting close to the end of there prime they are both closing in on 10 years in the league. You expect them to tell this fanbase who has been through the losing it has we are going to waste that talent and bring in a turnover machine (again a rookie qb thing not a geno thing) to replace a turnover machine and start all over even though we have talent here. They might as well have just said we don't want our jobs

Again what have I said that's not FACT

Just because it doesn't support Geno doesn't mean it's stupid to state the fact.

And not sufficiently improved? Look at the 4th game on the line what has happened we have gone down the field and took the lead or clinched the game EVERY time That's not improved?

Because of ****s like you we will never draft the quarterback that can be around year after year knocking that door down.

UMMMMM I didn't know I was in charge of that choice

Pretty sure I have no say in the matter

Hope that makes you feel better

29th
30th
23rd

Those are the pass defense ranking of the NFCE teams Alex has faced.

Against the Titans, Alex threw 4 balls that probably should have been picked.

We didn't need to pass against Jacksonville.

Generalization with no data to support it. Fantastic job.

True

we have yet to see Alex go against a good d we will then we can talk

And could of would have should have every QB has those. GENO DID have those against the Titans and the LOST Alex WON

No, but you are still part of the problem with this 'true fan' base. Think they would learn after the Carl Peterson &Pioli shit quarterbacks from other teams.

I don't have time to aggregate the data, but the Chiefs offense has been gifted the most turnovers in the NFL and has been given the best field position in the NFL (both by wide margins) but still only manages 1.61 points per drive. Good for 17th in the NFL. NOT SUFFICIENTLY IMPROVED.

Peyton manning 28 ints

Big Ben 2x super bowl MVP 17 picks

There's a reason rookies use to always sit for a year or 2

But ya there's no data to support it

KC Punts per drive: .516 Good for 30th in the NFL. Thank you JAX and STL for being worse. (Not even TB is worse.)

How many times in the 4th have we seen turnovers cost us the game late even to some poor teams. A LOT Instead this year we are going down the field and WINNING THE GAME that's not improved really?

You use 2 examples and expect that to be an acceptable sample size?


Are you ****ing inbred? Seriously, what diseased whore did you crawl out from, Captain Afterbirth?

Now I can be happy at 5-0 but with reservations that our offense lead by Alex Smith is not pulling their weight. Get offense moving the ball and scoring drives that we don't have to rely on MVP & muffed punt returns.

Addition by the subtraction of Cassel is not sufficient improvement, no. Keep leaving out the key words, btw. Makes you look really smart.

You are called stupid because of a variety of things.

1) You don't understand simple NFL concepts
2) You can't decipher between they're, their and there.
3) You don't know when to end a sentence and start a new one.
4) You are a kool aid defender that does nothing but try to rationalize and defend the teams dealings, no matter what.
5) You just got here and already have one of the sandiest vaginas on the site.

More facts? Big Ben threw 11 picks in his rookie year. 17 TDs though. Good try there dumbass.