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Mr. Plow 11-20-2013 08:38 AM

So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?

New World Order 11-20-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10206776)
So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?



It has been the OL in the weeks before we played Denver. The vibe I have been getting from the Denver game is it was the WR. So count on this week against SD either the playcalling or the OL. Our offensive struggles can't be due to Alex Smith, it never is.

KCUnited 11-20-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10206776)
So what is the current excuse we are debating for Alex?

Is it the OLine excuse? WR?

The number of dropped passes has grown everyday since Sunday night. Listening to Petro and Teicher yesterday, you'd think balls were careening off receivers shoulder pads and clanking off facemasks the whole game.

duncan_idaho 11-20-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10206645)
Yup. Exactly. What you see without blind anti-homerism.

If it weren't for all the critical drops I think we win that game, or are right in it at the end.

There was some encouraging play by Alex Smith in the 1st half, definitely. He made some throws early that he had not been making for most of this season, and it seemed to open up the field in the second quarter. Funny how when teams respect you throwing the ball down the field a bit, the short passing game and running game open up.

Second half - really the third quarter - it seemed like the offense regressed. And it didn't get going again until the Broncos had a 17-point lead with 7 1/2 minutes left (garbage time).

The drops hurt, obviously, but I think it's a stretch to say the Chiefs win without the drops.

Alex Smith played better, but he still needs to improve a lot. And the biggest issue remains the throws he chooses NOT to make because of his extreme risk aversion (even when they are throws he CAN safely make/has the arm strength and accuracy to make).

TheUte 11-20-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10206811)
There was some encouraging play by Alex Smith in the 1st half, definitely. He made some throws early that he had not been making for most of this season, and it seemed to open up the field in the second quarter. Funny how when teams respect you throwing the ball down the field a bit, the short passing game and running game open up.

Second half - really the third quarter - it seemed like the offense regressed. And it didn't get going again until the Broncos had a 17-point lead with 7 1/2 minutes left (garbage time).

The drops hurt, obviously, but I think it's a stretch to say the Chiefs win without the drops.

Alex Smith played better, but he still needs to improve a lot. And the biggest issue remains the throws he chooses NOT to make because of his extreme risk aversion (even when they are throws he CAN safely make/has the arm strength and accuracy to make).

I can completely respect criticism when done with some fairness.

He played far from a perfect game, that said the loss can't be put solely on AS.

The dropped pass by Avery was big, I think that one play changes the game.

That one play let a little doubt creep in and they can't let that happen.

mschiefs1984 11-20-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10206778)
It has been the OL in the weeks before we played Denver. The vibe I have been getting from the Denver game is it was the WR. So count on this week against SD either the playcalling or the OL. Our offensive struggles can't be due to Alex Smith, it never is.

And on the flip side of that when WRS are dropping balls or the Line is allowing guys to come unblocked those things never hurt the offense it's always Alex.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-20-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10206566)
B/c Manning did what he had to do to win. He didn't care about his stat line. He knew he had to get rid of the back early, before routes had developed at all, so he did. It wasn't going to be pretty, but it basically had to be done.

Unlike Alex, who couldn't bare the thought of a hailmary tainting his stat line, so he took what was statistically the worst choice for the team instead, and ran. Add in that he is currently a white man, and you can see why it's so bothersome.

LMAO

Mr. Plow 11-20-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 10206789)
The number of dropped passes has grown everyday since Sunday night. Listening to Petro and Teicher yesterday, you'd think balls were careening off receivers shoulder pads and clanking off facemasks the whole game.


"Bowe dropped that one pass 7 times. What an idiot!!"

BigCatDaddy 11-20-2013 10:52 AM

OP wins. Close thread.

ChiefsCountry 11-20-2013 11:10 AM

The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

Jakemall 11-20-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10207015)
OP wins. Close thread.

Didn't you just get finish saying that Alex is average? Isn't that a bit different than "did, does and will always suck"?

Fish 11-20-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10207066)
The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

Peyton Manning would be a good QB if only those Denver receivers could hold on to the ball. I guess Denver needs all new WRs as well, since they have more drops than the Chiefs.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10207066)
The Chiefs are #6 in the NFL in dropped passes. Guess who is #5.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...iving&rank=232

What player leads the Chiefs in drop passes? Jamaal Charles with 7. A 1/3 of the drops are coming from the running back position.

Denver's amazing WR core - Decker has 7, Welker has 6.

McCluster, Avery, Fasano have 3 drops.
Bowe has 2 drops.

Bowe's drop percentage is tied with Jason Whitten and Pierrce Garcon.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

# of passes dropped is a useless stat unless you include the number of passes thrown.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 11:17 AM

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...rcentage/2013/

KC is #4 in terms of team drops % Denver i

GoChargers 11-20-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10206668)
This is why the Alex Smith career is so fascinating.

To you, maybe. To those of us who don't have a mancrush on Captain Checkdown, he's about as boring and vanilla as it gets.


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