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SAUTO 11-20-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10207346)
But the reverse is true?

look at the pats.

o line isn't too good, wrs are all young and drop tons of balls, TE? one hurt one in jail...


7-3 STILL.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10207227)
You should actually be going off of his drop percentage. 3.5%......less than A.J. Green and Calvin Johnson.

His percentage of targets caught is 57.9%....higher than Green and Johnson.

Advancednflstats.com has Bowe at 52.1% catch rate. That's lower than everyone on the team except Brock, Kenkins and Hall. He ranks 67th among WRs in the NFL. As does Sporting charts...where are you getting your data?

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=WR


http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

Jakemall 11-20-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10207368)
I wouldn't say Peyton Manning is a "good QB at best."

Yeah...maybe mediocre would be more accurate.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10207395)
look at the pats.

o line isn't too good, wrs are all young and drop tons of balls, TE? one hurt one in jail...


7-3 STILL.

Again with the comparison to a HOF qb. I'm not sure about the line comparison..I think the KC line is worse...but Pats do have more drops. Probably a better comparison of what a HOF QB would look like vs what Smith is doing.

TheUte 11-20-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10207285)
you are another dumbass.

and niners fans on a chiefs board telling a life long chiefs fan to gtfo is classic.


****ing idiots.

I am in no way a Cryniners fan, I can't stand them.

All I'm saying is that shit is very rarely as simple as "AS sucks and that's why the Chiefs lost". There where are a lot of factors in the lose and if that is too complicated then I'm sorry.

TheUte 11-20-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10207386)
A difference of 0.7%.

Broncos -- 410 * .056 = 22.96 drops

Do the same for the Chiefs.... 410 * .063 = 25.83

So, no, I don't think those 3 drops over 10 games is quite a difference. Considering one is a HoF QB and the other is Alex Smith AND considering the Smith fans' argument that it's the receivers' fault, I'd expect the Broncos' percentage to be much lower.

You can't argue the offense is being held down by drops more than Smith's play AND argue the Broncos' stat is better because of Peyton Manning.

So are you arguing that all drops effect the game the same.

Cause all drops are not created equal.

Bearcat 11-20-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10207516)
So are you arguing that all drops effect the game the same.

Cause all drops are not created equal.

Of course not, I was responding to what was posted. If there's some stat on clutch catches/drops, whether it's 20+ yard passes, 3rd down passes, in the endzone, etc; it certainly has a chance to help his point more than the percentage of drops... :shrug:

Kaepernick 11-20-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 10207291)
Just thought i would check in and see how the "alex will always suck" thread is going.

Carry on.

It will never end. You know that it will never end. For a middling sports professional player, he really has a polarizing effect on groups of people.


http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/135/999/1359994_300.jpg

Jakemall 11-20-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10207544)
Of course not, I was responding to what was posted. If there's some stat on clutch catches/drops, whether it's 20+ yard passes, 3rd down passes, in the endzone, etc; it certainly has a chance to help his point more than the percentage of drops... :shrug:

And also the catchable balls that don't quite fit into the "drop" category but still should have been. But we didn't go there.


BTW, does anyone have access to a "bad passes" stat...couldn't find one. I'd be curious to see how Alex looks on that. Seems like there are a number of over thrown passes and passes that were wide....almost looks like Alex was expecting the reciever to be somewhere else..which might be true part of the time, but I'm sure a number were simply off.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10207626)
It will never end. You know that it will never end. For a middling sports professional player, he really has a polarizing effect on groups of people.


http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/135/999/1359994_300.jpg

so are you really going to keep that signature? Because it is looking like he is going to be correct on that score...

TheUte 11-20-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 10207544)
Of course not, I was responding to what was posted. If there's some stat on clutch catches/drops, whether it's 20+ yard passes, 3rd down passes, in the endzone, etc; it certainly has a chance to help his point more than the percentage of drops... :shrug:

I would like to see that stat.

The Avery drop hurt, Receivers just have to make those catches.

The drop seemed like points lost.

New World Order 11-20-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 10207275)
Only a true potato could translate "needs perfection" out of that post. Yeah, you can GTFO dumbass. :thumb:



Look, you know he isn't good. There are arguably 20+ quarterbacks in the NFL that are better than him. He has always taken a massive amount of sacks, that pretty much cancels out any blame that goes on the OL and Charles is the one dropping the passes. Why? Because Alex Smith throws to the flats every ****ing time.

No Alex Smith cock sucker can answer the simple question as to why Dwayne Bowe was looked at coming into the season as one of the better WR in the league, and now with Alex Smith everyone thinks Bowe is a chump. Has the guy had one game with more than 70 yards receiving yet? This is no coincidence. Alex Smith sucks.

Please leave, for me.

BigCatDaddy 11-20-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10207632)
so are you really going to keep that signature? Because it is looking like he is going to be correct on that score...

I was wondering the same thing about NinerDoug

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=22

Jakemall 11-20-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10207639)
I would like to see that stat.

The Avery drop hurt, Receivers just have to make those catches.

The drop seemed like points lost.

You could probably come up with something for 3rd down reception % but It's going to be pretty hard to find stats on dropped passes based upon air yards and I don't see how you're going to find stats on drops that would have resulted in a TD unless you sit and watch every single drop that happened and make your own opinion...which will likely be flawed unless you can identify all the dropped ball plays...because there will be likely a few incompletes that you'd call drops that weren't designated as such.

Jakemall 11-20-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10207648)
I was wondering the same thing about NinerDoug

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...2&postcount=22

Just more slowly than he anticipated? :shrug: :D


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