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TEX 02-06-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8354641)
Winning cures everything in sports.

Not winning magnifies every single flaw a team has.

Truth is, if we don't lose 3 guys to ACL injuries this year, we win the division for the second straight year for the first time in forever.

Right now, I LOVE...not just like, LOVE the way this roster is being built. that credit goes to Pioli.

He inherited a poor roster and has us 2-3 pieces away from being a LEGIT superbowl team.

The damning part is that one of those pieces is quarterback and that overshadows everything else.

I don't think that Pioli is ready to give up on Cassel yet (this year is the cheapest of the entire contract), but I don't think he is far from pulling the plug, either. If he doesn't step up big time this year, no way they bring him in next year at 8 million.

There is NO DOUBT that the issue has been brought up when the team asked to and interviewed other coaches for the OC spot. I'd be willing to bet we tried to talk to a lot of coaches and that we were denied due to Cassel.

Its not like Pioli can ignore the issue.

His statements are consistent with that line of thinking, too.

He said he isnt married to Cassel.
Harry asked him if he would trade up for a quarterback and he said "depends on the cost" ...that right there shows that Pioli sees quarterback as a major need, worthy of a first round pick AND MORE...just not 2 first round picks.
he said he is gonna bring in competition
His head coach keeps bringing up Orton

Like I said, I dont think he is ready to give up on him (therefore pissing more time by hiring Daboll to try and help Matt), but that depending on how Camp and preseason go could yield us a new starting quarterback.

I dont think Cassel goes into this camp as the unquestioned starter...regardless of who we bring in.

I agree that Pioli "inherrited a poor roster" yet after 3 drafts, the best players on the team are still the ones he inherited...:hmmm:

splatbass 02-06-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8354745)
I agree that Pioli "inherrited a poor roster" yet after 3 drafts, the best players on the team are still the ones he inherited...:hmmm:

That Haley got to play up to their capabilities.

Urc Burry 02-06-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8354957)
That Haley got to play up to their capabilities.

Please tell me you're not serious

TEX 02-06-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 8354957)
That Haley got to play up to their capabilities.

SERIOUSLY? :bong:

Epic Fail 007 02-06-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8354127)
I would like the Chiefs to become the Patriots. Let's start with getting a Tom Brady.

We have him,Stanzi,just play him

splatbass 02-06-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8354962)
Please tell me you're not serious

I am. It is clear. Bowe and DJ didn't play up to their abilites with Herm. They did after Haley motivated them in apparently the only way they could be motivated.

splatbass 02-06-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8355011)
SERIOUSLY? :bong:

Absolutely. Anyone that doesn't think Haley got more out of Bowe and DJ than Herm did is a moron.

ILChief 02-06-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8355066)
We have him,Stanzi,just play him

We just need a mo Lewis.

el borracho 02-06-2012 11:22 PM

As uninspired as the Crennel hire. And, just like Crennel, it will be easy to part ways with Daboll when this thing fails (and it will).

BIG K 02-06-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8355066)
We have him,Stanzi,just play him

Might be a stretch Mr. 007 to say Stanzi is the same material as Brady at this point. That being said, I agree that Stanzi should be given a fair opportunity with the first team offense against Cassel and whoever to compete for the position......

NJChiefsFan 02-07-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 8355210)
Might be a stretch Mr. 007 to say Stanzi is the same material as Brady at this point. That being said, I agree that Stanzi should be given a fair opportunity with the first team offense against Cassel and whoever to compete for the position......

Yeah he should. Especially if it is Cassel, it should be a legit competition. While he may never be Brady, even at .008% chance its still an .008% better of a chance than Cassel ever has of being Brady.

RustShack 02-07-2012 12:55 AM

Actually all of our star players now weren't touching this production under Herm.

NJChiefsFan 02-07-2012 01:22 AM

People can hate on Haley and there are a lot of reasons, but I don't see how anyone can deny what DJ and Bowe became when he lit a fire under their ass.

philfree 02-07-2012 01:59 AM

Haley is a position coach. His style of coaching IMO is best suited for that. A HC or even OC can't call out each player individually like he's done with the WRs he's coached. There's not enough time in a day and it would take to much energy.

I could end up being wrong but I don't think he'll last long as the OC for Pitts. And Pitts is the best at setting up their coaches to succeed. :shrug: I reckon we'll see in a year or so.

BigMeatballDave 02-07-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 8355306)
Haley is a position coach. His style of coaching IMO is best suited for that. A HC or even OC can't call out each player individually like he's done with the WRs he's coached. There's not enough time in a day and it would take to much energy.

I could end up being wrong but I don't think he'll last long as the OC for Pitts. And Pitts is the best at setting up their coaches to succeed. :shrug: I reckon we'll see in a year or so.

He did a fine job in Arizona. He had a good QB there and he's got an even better one in Pitt.


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