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lewdog 10-17-2018 08:57 PM

That homer was a total bullshit call. How can you even conclude that?!?!

jd1020 10-17-2018 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 13825140)
Houston got absolutely ****ed by that bullshit call. The ball was out of the park and Mookie went up and over to get it, which is his right. The fans tried to catch it without reaching over the wall, which is their right.

I didn't think it was bullshit.

Was the ball going out? Yes.

But, until the ball crosses over the plane of the wall it is still in play. When the fan made contact with Mookie's glove he wasn't even against the wall yet. So can you definitively say that the fan wasn't reaching over the wall into the field of play? Look at the slowmo. You can make a reasonable assumption that someone standing right up against the wall with their arms out in front of them are in fact reaching onto the field of play.

I think Joe West is one of the worst umpires in the league and can't think of any valid reason why he still has a job as a MLB umpire, but I think he got that one right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwO4RMU8AANuDX.jpg

He's not up and over anything and the fans had already interfered with Betts before the ball got there.

But more to the point... The guy in the white shirt is reaching to the right to try and catch the ball. What the **** is he looking at?

Why Not? 10-17-2018 10:37 PM

One of the many reasons to appreciate those WS Royals teams was their overall team intelligence. Astros down 3 in an absolute must win and facing a shaky Kimbrel going for a 6 out save. Tony Kemp leads of with a single........and immediately gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a double.


Edit: HBP and a double later and now it looms even larger.

Coach 10-17-2018 10:48 PM

One way that teams/MLB can do to solve this "fan interference" is to make some space/gaps between the outfield wall to where the fans are.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-18-2018 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13825381)
I didn't think it was bullshit.

Was the ball going out? Yes.

But, until the ball crosses over the plane of the wall it is still in play. When the fan made contact with Mookie's glove he wasn't even against the wall yet. So can you definitively say that the fan wasn't reaching over the wall into the field of play? Look at the slowmo. You can make a reasonable assumption that someone standing right up against the wall with their arms out in front of them are in fact reaching onto the field of play.

I think Joe West is one of the worst umpires in the league and can't think of any valid reason why he still has a job as a MLB umpire, but I think he got that one right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpwO4RMU8AANuDX.jpg

He's not up and over anything and the fans had already interfered with Betts before the ball got there.

But more to the point... The guy in the white shirt is reaching to the right to try and catch the ball. What the **** is he looking at?

I'm obviously biased but I agree. Looks like the fan made contact just barely in the field of play.

TambaBerry 10-18-2018 10:41 AM

just build fences to a height where no player can get that high

Deberg_1990 10-18-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13825409)
One way that teams/MLB can do to solve this "fan interference" is to make some space/gaps between the outfield wall to where the fans are.

Yep. Teams invite this controversy when design descions are made I garuntee you the Astros knew this would happen someday. But they chose ‘fan experience’ over a potential incident that really doesn’t happen all that much.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-18-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13825972)
Yep. Teams invite this controversy when design descions are made I garuntee you the Astros knew this would happen someday. But they chose ‘fan experience’ over a potential incident that really doesn’t happen all that much.

Will teams/the league want to pay to make these changes, though?

It was really fluky that this happened at all. Even more fluky that it was a two-run shot.

Deberg_1990 10-18-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ShiftyEyedWaterboy (Post 13826013)
Will teams/the league want to pay to make these changes, though?

It was really fluky that this happened at all. Even more fluky that it was a two-run shot.

Probably not. Your right the cost/benefit analysis isn’t worth it. Worth being highly subjective of course.

Jerok 10-18-2018 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13826026)
Probably not. Your right the cost/benefit analysis isn’t worth it. Worth being highly subjective of course.

I mean, just make the fence 2 feet higher and give everybody booster seats? I'll take my million dollar check for the idea.

jd1020 10-18-2018 11:17 AM

Some teams already have a gap. Cubs have the basket, Dodgers have elevated bleachers which are like 6 feet behind the wall, Cardinals have a planter box or some shit going around the fence, Brewers have bullpens between the fans and the wall, etc...

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-18-2018 11:32 AM

Just saw that 48 runners were left on base last night. Holy crap. Is that legit? That can't be right. 48 that reached maybe. Even that must be wrong, though.

SAUTO 10-18-2018 11:41 AM

That looked like the fan was over the wall

SAUTO 10-18-2018 11:42 AM

The guy in white was reaching and mugging for the camera

Great Expectations 10-18-2018 12:40 PM

I’d call that one inconclusive.

Coach 10-18-2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 13826039)
Some teams already have a gap. Cubs have the basket, Dodgers have elevated bleachers which are like 6 feet behind the wall, Cardinals have a planter box or some shit going around the fence, Brewers have bullpens between the fans and the wall, etc...

Right, but some teams don't. The Royals had something similar like this happened in the 2015 ALCS against Toronto.

Discuss Thrower 10-18-2018 02:55 PM

Bartman should have taught fans that you should just GTFO of the way of plays at the wall or foul lines.

Coach 10-18-2018 06:45 PM

On a different note, the Royals are now free to negotiate with anyone in regards to TV contract.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...220250390.html

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The Royals’ TV negotiations just hit a major mile marker, so what’s next?

By Sam Mellinger
[email protected]

October 18, 2018 03:50 PM
Updated 3 hours 25 minutes ago

The Royals are free agents for the first time in a decade.

The final deadline for the team and Fox Sports to negotiate a new television contract has passed. Effective immediately, the Royals are free to negotiate with any network.

Their current deal with Fox is widely believed to be one of the worst for a team in major professional sports. It expires after the 2019 season.

“We view it as an exciting time,” said Kevin Uhlich, the Royals’ senior vice president for baseball operations. “We don’t view it negatively at all. It’s part of the process, and we’re up for it.”

Fox will pay the Royals about $25 million in the final year of the contract. Uhlich wouldn’t disclose either side’s final offer but said “it’s still a pretty big gap.”

After the 2016 season, the Reds, playing in one of two Nielsen markets smaller than Kansas City, replaced a deal that had been paying about $30 million with one believed to be worth about $1 billion over 15 years.

The Royals are believed to want a 10- or 15-year contract. Local TV deals are among the biggest and most important sources of revenue for franchises.

Despite a 104-loss season that included trades of stars Mike Moustakas and Kelvin Herrera, the Royals were again the most-watched prime-time television programming in Kansas City, and finished sixth among the 29 U.S.-based teams covered by Nielsen.

Among others, the Royals finished ahead of the Astros, Mariners, Yankees and Pirates in local ratings.

The Royals’ negotiation is complicated for lots of reasons, including that TV networks traditionally pay more for market size than local ratings. The TV industry is fairly chaotic, too, not just with Disney’s purchase of 21st Century Fox — which includes Fox Sports KC — but an uncertain future in the face of cord-cutting and streaming.

“The universe is wide open,” Uhlich said. “That’s what makes it so difficult to figure out what the best route is. But we know we have great content. We know that sports is No. 1. So we feel strongly that wherever we go that’s a plus for us. It’s good content. It gets great ratings.”

The Royals expect Fox to remain interested. The team has generally been happy with the partnership in every way except the most important, which is the payout.

The current deal gives Fox the right to review and match any final offer the Royals receive from a third party, with two exceptions: if the Royals start their own regional sports network, or if the offer is more than the team’s final offer to Fox.

The Royals have and will continue to explore all options but are expected to prioritize wide distribution. That likely means a more traditional partner that would be widely available through cable, supplemented with streaming options that could either be run by the partner or negotiated separately with a company like Amazon.

“What’s important for us is to not only cut a deal that’s good for us financially but that we don’t end up in a situation like the Dodgers are in,” Uhlich said of a deal with Time Warner Cable that leaves a large number of L.A. households unable to watch their games. “They don’t reach a lot of fans. That doesn’t help us. We want to make sure any direction we go we’re maximizing distribution and also maximizing revenue.”

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-18-2018 11:16 PM

Here's the solution:
https://preview.ibb.co/kJFw6L/6-STz-...rm-EKx5-RY.jpg

PunkinDrublic 10-18-2018 11:22 PM

So glad Houston lost. I ****ing hate the Astros. I didn’t want to see them go to back to back World Series like the Royals did.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy 10-18-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13827614)
So glad Houston lost. I ****ing hate the Astros. I didn’t want to see them go to back to back World Series like the Royals did.

Their fans are horrible, in my experience.

On to the WS! On paper, we should demolish whoever the NL sends but who knows. Its baseball

SPchief 10-19-2018 08:45 PM

NLzzzzzzzzzz


You could bust this game open and still have this guy fresh. But no, lets send a pitcher up in the 5th ****ing inning to strike out

Bob Dole 10-19-2018 08:57 PM

So the Royals will net $15?

TomBarndtsTwin 10-19-2018 10:35 PM

So after game, Frank Thomas mentions he’s never seen a bullpen like this (referring to Brewers) and asks Eric Kratz if he’s ever caught a bullpen like this before. He says no and rambles on . . . . :facepalm:

Does he even remember he was with the Royals in 2014??

TomBarndtsTwin 10-19-2018 10:39 PM

Game 7 tomorrow for Moose and LoCain. Should be fun. Go ex-Royals! (Except Soria)

suzzer99 10-21-2018 01:24 AM

Yeah that was no fun. I was rooting pretty hard for the Brewers too. I doubt I'll even watch a WS game. Bleh.

CaliforniaChief 10-21-2018 03:53 AM

Yeah, Dodgers-Red Sox is about the worst case scenario for me. Two of the most insufferable fan bases in the game.

KChiefs1 10-21-2018 06:25 AM

Not watching.

WhawhaWhat 10-28-2018 11:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Y’all know Salvy just got married?! This is from <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealHos305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealHos305</a> IG account. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ForeverRoyal?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ForeverRoyal</a> <a href="https://t.co/xAfB6D3KL0">pic.twitter.com/xAfB6D3KL0</a></p>&mdash; Toni? Tone? Tony! (@torejackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/torejackson/status/1056646120515006468?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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MVChiefFan 10-28-2018 11:30 PM

I bet he gave her a gatorade bath.

tk13 10-28-2018 11:40 PM

About 100 days until spring training!

KChiefs1 11-06-2018 06:21 PM

*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
 
Throwback Tuesday. One of my favorite Royals teams.

September 16, 1977

Don Fortune on the Royals winning streak ending at 16 games.

https://youtu.be/NW5feB3OySk

Off topic but I present Cheryl Jones.

https://youtu.be/yjIZGOUnfmU

Coach 11-06-2018 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13874281)
Throwback Tuesday. One of my favorite Royals teams.

September 16, 1977

Don Fortune on the Royals winning streak ending at 16 games.

https://youtu.be/NW5feB3OySk

Off topic but I present Cheryl Jones.

https://youtu.be/yjIZGOUnfmU

Good deal. By the way, go here. This is the off-season thread now. :D

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...=318529&page=4


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