Well, he kind of sort of did that "stuff" to himself.

Guess what, Frank? No one gives a ****.

If Jones is a June 1 cut, we save 4.25mil

If he's traded we save 15mil

https://overthecap.com/calculator/kansas-city-chiefs/

Because of the roster bonus?

The group of Clark, Jones, and Reed is such a disappointment. You get the feeling that they don't really care and are happy to cash fat checks. I imagine it would be difficult for a lot of players to continue to go all out every snap and potentially put their long-term health at risk when they are already set financially.

Picking a DE guy off a practice squad and giving him a chance might be a better option at this point.

Move Jones back to DT.

Make a trade for a CB or S.

They need to shake that D up somehow because it just doesn't look good at all. It's just awful.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Clark also said Chiefs have been looking ahead rather than at task at hand. &quot;We get ahead of ourselves. You start thinking to the playoffs, to the Super Bowl, to those games instead of thinking, ‘We’ve got the Giants this week’’ ... I feel like that’s been kind of a problem.&#39;&#39;</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1454143255776567302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

who is clark to tell us what our problems are?

Clark blaming anything but himself. Imagine that.

Hey Frank how about you admit that you suck ass

Apparently Clark's been looking forward to Thanksgiving

Frank's moving to DT the last month of the season the way he's doing.

Yeah, I envision someone going up to Frank saying, "What's this 'we' shit, kemosabe?"

Lotta HoboSpirit & checked out Justin Houston vibes.

At his worst Justin Houston was leading the best pass rushing group in the NFL. And berry when he did play showed more passion than anyone else. Dude came back 1 game and had to show people where to line up LMAO

These guys are nothing like Berry and Houston.

They aren’t. They actually made plays in the biggest moments that helped us win a Super Bowl

Fatality.

Yeah. The roster bonus for 2022 guaranteed in March of 2021.

It's been a favorite trick of agents recently to have their vesting guarantees vest the season prior so that guys REALLY have to suck to get cut a season before the guarantee would've kicked in. Veach did it with Jones, Hitchens and Clark.

It's why you see references to 'effective guarantees' more than 'guaranteed money' these days. Because while Jones 2022 roster bonus wasn't technically guaranteed at signing, it would've been nearly impossible for him to have been so bad in 2020 that he'd get cut prior to the 2022 roster bonus becoming guaranteed in 2021.

Good point. I guess Tony Gonzalez sucks too.

Justin Houston AFC Championship game vs Patriots:

2 tackles
0 sacks
0 pressures
0 QB hits

But I'm a pussy ass beta bitch for saying these guys look like they're loafing. Yeah, okay.

Ok? I guess they're better than Jamaal Charles and Tampa Hali too huh.

And the previous week?

And you act like Tom Brady didn't just do the same shit to the defense last year in the Superbowl.

Imagine measuring broke dicks

Frank Clark showed up every single game in 2019. He tied Von Miller for the most sacks in a playoff run (5).

He was a major factor that helped us win the Super Bowl

What 2019 did you watch?

I'm talking about the previous Justin Houston game.

And I never took anything away from Clark. He took advantage of the moment and of great coverage. Too bad we didn't have that same great coverage in the 2018 AFCCG.

STUD

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scanning through the PFF data from last night’s win. I was shocked to see Frank Clark with a 91.7 overall grade(take with grain of salt). That’s his highest game grade ever as a Chief, he had never even posted a grade in the 80s. Thought he played a good game last night, but wow.</p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1455543355077693447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He played hard last night.

Was he limping on the side line after that strip sacked last night.

That was his pimp walk.

2019 get off here - this could be huge if he's back to this level of burst

https://i.imgur.com/genpk2o.gif

cool, now do last week against the 3rd string LT.

I think Frank and Jones didn't like all the public thrashing they got.

Will they just decide to actually try hard now?

That'd be great.

If they show up this week too, I'll start to believe again.

Interesting. First time in front of the podium last week, for this season. Said he wasn't as centered(my wording) on football as he should be. Refreshing honesty? Nice contrast to a bitter honey badger? Defense's playoff Sammy? Tune in this week, hope for same shark channeling. A channel shark? NM

90+ PFF grade

you're a dumbshit, chris

Oh yeah, clearly, Frank Clark has played AWESOME!

why don't you throw another temper tantrum, you little baby.

i am

i am mad at ****ing dumbasses who are negative for no good reason

Pathetic.

Frank Clark has played well for two weeks.

Yet here you are, being a negative dick.

He was definitely better, good on him.

His admitting it at the podium was refreshing.

It'd be cool if we see the $29m or whatever it is worth of Frank Clark we're paying him this season the rest of the way. That'd make a big difference.

Frank Clark doesn’t suck. Frank Clark wasn’t trying. Frank Clark was being lazy.

Look how much better the pass rush was when Jones was inside and Frank gave a ****? Now you add Ingram on the other side of that with Reed too?

That’s a ****ing GOOD pass rush if they Jones and Clark put the effort in. THAT right there makes the defense way better

Clark was always putting in effort. It's a lie that this defense was ever lazy.

Clark's agent needs to be in his ear that he's assuredly getting cut after this year and if he wants another payday he'll need to treat the rest of this season as a contract year. He can make himself a lot more money if he balls out.

He's got kids to feed and lawyers to pay.

No, Frank sucks.

A guy making $25 million this year is lazy? That doesn’t make me feel much better.

Little of column A, little of column B.

He's a clearly diminished player. When he goes full tilt, he can be a more effective version of Mike Danna. That has value.

But it's nothing approaching what we gave for him and what we've paid him.

On his good days (snaps) he's at least an asset, but he doesn't appear capable of consistent production due in part to being lazy and undisciplined in the off-season.

He’s way quicker than Danna and has better technique. The tape has shown that when he’s trying. Clay had a gif of that somewhere.

When Frank wants to play he’s actually quite good as we saw in the playoffs in 2019.

I think he got paid and got too comfortable. If he plays like he did on Monday than we are in business

How guys & rookies are expected to play 17 games and playoffs with 1 bye is bullshit. Shortened careers or take plays off. You can't blame them, then you can.

I think intensity and focus ARE the problems for our defense.

It hurts to tackle someone, no matter what the situation. I imagine tackling in the NFL really hurts. You need to be amped up and ready to ignore the pain to be a good defensive player. This team is not really an amped up type of team.

Taking plays off and not fully committing to a tackle will kill a defense. That's what kills us. imo

That's why we play better defense at the end of the season and in the playoffs, we try harder.

Dude is back. Speed and speed to power. And dominating piece of shit TEs.

Watch out bitches! The shark is swimming!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark&#39;s patented speed/shoulder dip around the arc made life tough on both of NYG&#39;s offensive tackles. More explosive off the snap - indicating he feels healthier after hamstring issues early on. <a href="https://t.co/KVNvZMInPW">pic.twitter.com/KVNvZMInPW</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Stewart (@BryanStewart_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanStewart_/status/1456092800622252039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Clark carrying increased body weight so well rn, he&#39;s able to convert speed to power again more effectively. Hammered the LT with good speed rushes for so long, it left him vulnerable to the inside. This is the Clark KC saw on tape that led to the trade in the first place. <a href="https://t.co/VF3OLwUCb6">pic.twitter.com/VF3OLwUCb6</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Stewart (@BryanStewart_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanStewart_/status/1456094255915704326?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Giants tried to block 55 with a tight end on some occasions Monday night, and, well.... <a href="https://t.co/wJliR2khkM">pic.twitter.com/wJliR2khkM</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Stewart (@BryanStewart_) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanStewart_/status/1456091326332776450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We just got, like, our entire pass rush back in two weeks.

Jones healthy and back at DT
Clark healthy and showing the power he had in Seattle (being fat might actually help now)
Ingram coming in hot.

I think this defense is going to vault into the middle of the pack by the end of the year. Sacks going way up.

Hope this is a healthy motivated clark the rest of the way not not just a mirage from playing a shit team. There is hope there because he's played ass against shit lines in the past few games.

Hopefully the Clark we got Monday night is the Clark we get for the rest of the season.

Between that, moving Jones back inside, and adding Ingram, there’s no reason we shouldn’t see significant improvement in the pass rush.

You combine that with guys like Thornhill and Gay continuing to improve, and this team might be able to surprise some people in the postseason.

Matt Peart is not a horrible tackle. Only two sacks allowed this year.

Frank is back.

FRANK IS ****ING BACK YOU HEAR ME?!

https://c.tenor.com/H7LJFOtP7YgAAAAC...all-street.gif

Jones isn’t healthy. He said it himself that he won’t be 100% this season.

Don't sleep on Ward's return either.

He's not flashy, but he's pretty dependable. He can't hang with guys for 3 seconds, but he's not gonna get roasted in 1 either.

The problem was the dueling failures we were seeing early in the year. When the coverage was there, the rush failed. When the rush was there, the coverage failed. Neither element was as universally ineffective as it seemed in real time - sometime the rush WAS effective (the Chiefs were maintaining a good pass rush win rate even when they appeared to be trash) or the coverage was - they just complemented each others suck perfectly.

Ward and Thornhill should beef up the reliability in the coverage units so that more of the effective pass rushes will get home. And adding Ingram, a moderately effective Clark and getting Jones home from the interior will help keep the coverage from being exposed when they have a lapse.

There's a lot of potential complementary defense to play here, especially if Reed and Nnadi can find their form on the interior and Hitchens can backfill for Niemann (however they choose to do so) and keep him off the field.

It's worth noting that you've never been able to hold your wad when it comes to Frank Clark.

Any modest signs of improvement and you're all-in again. It's been an actual sign of things to come once.

You can tell skill from luck by its duration - show me it was no accident, Frank.

And I don’t care if he’s back….I’m still cutting his dumb ass after this season.

Bro look at that getoff.

At the beginning of the year ANYONE could block Frank.

He straight up clapped his hands when he saw that tight end and tore his spine out.

Pay cut. Frank is a Chief for life.

Yea, Ward is clearly not 100% either. You get him healthy while keeping him on the field over the next couple weeks and that should help as well.

You're trolling with... positivity?

Dang. You're the Andy Reid of trolling. Always inventing and trying new things.

3 weeks ago he was a fat pile of shit that could get stonewalled by TEs.

This was the continuation of a 14 month long trend of Clark being completely ineffective.

And you think NOW he's suddenly a monster? How the hell healthy do you think a guy can get in 20 days?

The absolutely BEST case scenario for Frank Clark is that he's lazy. That's really the best hope. That he's still good and just elects not to be for prolonged periods. So MAYBE he'll go ahead and elect to be good for awhile. That would be neat.

But more likely is that he's still not that good and he's still kinda lazy.

The complexion of the defense changes dramatically if we get the recent versions of Clark and Jones added with Ingram.

We had the worst pass rush in the entire league 3 weeks ago. No wonder everywhere else sucked.

Fix the pass rush, bench Neimann for Gay and give Thornhill Sorenson’s snaps. Do that and the defense is suddenly competent

You know who else would probably be a lot better if the defense around him gets their shit together?

Tyrann Mathieu.

I can’t help but think he’s a bit of a front runner, not necessarily in a bad way, but in the sense that his personality is great when things are going good, and borderline toxic when they’re going terribly.

He’s playing well for his new team next year. He knows he’s done after this season so he’s putting up effort to try to get a reasonable contract that will pay taxes on the big one we gave him

Clark looked like he was limping as he came off the field Monday night. Not optimistic about him being healthy any time soon.

He wasn’t even on the injury report yesterday.

I've been getting that vibe from Kelce lately. He isn't toxic but his body language goes to shit when things aren't going our way.

look at this rotten bleeding ****

never seen such a sad sack group of bitches on CP the last two weeks

DEFEND OUR HONOR

I think Kelce is playing hurt. Same thing with Mahomes.

That "I hate Chris Jones" thread has been awfully quiet this week.

I guess no one wants to be taken to the woodshed with clips of his dominance against NYG.

He always has a ****y attitude. It's just a bit endearing when we're playing good.

Losing games makes the dumb ****s even dumber ****s. When literally their expectations are to win NFL games by 2 or 3 TDs every week, you know they have no clue

I just completely stayed away from that thread. Never even clicked on it.

That thread was the epitome of Overreaction Planet.

I think Pest nailed it.

He’s clearly not 100% and probably sick of being mugged every play.

That would explain it.

And in his defense, he was literally the only guy on the team (until that fumble against NYG) who was putting in the work. When Tyreek and Mahomes were ****ing up, he was going steady and I'd bet that would have added to his frustration.