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Hammock Parties 07-27-2013 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9838989)
John Elway's stats suggest he was not a good QB.
Incorrect.

Averaged 12.5 YPC for his career.

Had 33 games of 3 TD or more.

Had 36 games of 300 yards or more.

All things that Alex struggles to do.

Elway was a bauce.

Whole reason the Broncos were any good was because he threw the ball down the field.

ViperVisor 07-27-2013 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9838827)
4 percent is a pretty big difference.

Fact is, when he was pressured, he took a sack more than any other QB in the NFL.

End of discussion.
Hello. That is where my pointing out the times he didn't mind taking a sack when pressured. When you are up 2 or 3 scores.

Sure, you'd prefer a completed pass and maybe for a 1st down.

But that usually isn't easily doable.

Look beyond the surface of your graph. Aaron Rodgers is the exception due to his special talent.
The rest is a gaggle of screw ups and young QBs who could learn a thing or 2 from how Alex Smith has done things recently.

ViperVisor 07-27-2013 07:46 PM
And that 2012 info isn't great because of the small sample. Some guys on there played about half the year, some more, some all games.

footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure-short-it
footballoutsiders.com/under-pressure/2011/under-pressure

Some more stuff to look at from earlier in Smith's career.
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49ers quarterback Alex Smith had the week’s quickest sack at 1.6 seconds, and he managed to get pulled down that quickly twice. As you would expect on such a quick sack, neither was really his fault.

Hammock Parties 07-27-2013 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839372)
And that 2012 info isn't great because of the small sample. Some guys on there played about half the year, some more, some all games.
LMAO

He was sacked a shit ton in 2011, too.

Get over it.

Hammock Parties 07-27-2013 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839254)
Sure, you'd prefer a completed pass and maybe for a 1st down.

But that usually isn't easily doable.
Yeah, only the good QBs do that.

Sucks to be us.

ViperVisor 07-27-2013 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9839435)
LMAO

He was sacked a shit ton in 2011, too.

Get over it.
The O-Line was BAD. We went over this. Those two 1.6 second sacks are from 2011.

And the 9 sack game on Thanksgiving vs Baltimore.
Protection was a joke. The experience of Chuck Pagano and the Ravens Def Staff embarrassed the 49ers on a short week.

Same game that has the 75-yard touchdown called back because of a unneeded penalty away from the play.
It was doofus supreme Chilo Rachal.

Hammock Parties 07-27-2013 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839483)
The O-Line was BAD. We went over this. Those two 1.6 second sacks are from 2011.
And when the offensive line showed improvement, he was sacked even more the next year.

He's just a sack-prone QB.

Might as well get used to it.

I'll take him getting sacked 50 times and throwing 10 INT over 30 sacks and 20 INT though, so, it's not all bad.

Take that sack, Alex, and we'll punt and hope the D holds!

Mav 07-27-2013 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839483)
The O-Line was BAD. We went over this. Those two 1.6 second sacks are from 2011.

And the 9 sack game on Thanksgiving vs Baltimore.
Protection was a joke. The experience of Chuck Pagano and the Ravens Def Staff embarrassed the 49ers on a short week.

Same game that has the 75-yard touchdown called back because of a unneeded penalty away from the play.
It was doofus supreme Chilo Rachal.
Gonna correct some of this. The problem with our protection. Both Bruce Miller, and Adam Snyder were out. They ran over chilo rachal all day long. And the penalty on the Ginn Td, was on Frank Gore. They called him for a chop block.....

Miserable game.

ViperVisor 07-27-2013 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9839488)
And when the offensive line showed improvement, he was sacked even more the next year.

He's just a sack-prone QB.
Percentage Pass Attempts Resulting in Sacks of Three or More Seconds, 2009-2010

Alex Smith 2.46%

League Average 2.61%

Hammock Parties 07-27-2013 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839511)
Percentage Pass Attempts Resulting in Sacks of Three or More Seconds, 2009-2010

Alex Smith 2.46%

League Average 2.61%
Yes, we all know he didn't take as many sacks earlier in his career.

He was too busy being one of the worst QBs in the league and losing games.

ViperVisor 07-27-2013 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9839516)
Yes, we all know he didn't take as many sacks earlier in his career.

He was too busy being one of the worst QBs in the league and losing games.
He was league average in QB Rating 09+10 while the coaching and OL was incompetent.

Mav 07-27-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 9839521)
He was league average in QB Rating 09+10 while the coaching and OL was incompetent.
He played well when they put him in the shot gun, and let him just read and throw. Then the offseason, they drafted iupati, and davis, and singletary wanted the 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense.

Hammock Parties 08-12-2013 07:17 PM
Alex Smith is already missing open receivers. Even my favorite one.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex2.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex.gif

Hammock Parties 08-12-2013 07:44 PM
49ers fans chime in!

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Originally Posted by fjrider (Post 5232311)
Looked up stats on Slingin' Alek. All pass plays below, distance in air of passes.

-5
-2
-4
Sacked -1
4
-2
7
Inc.
4

Reid obviously taught him how to "air it out". Same 'ol, same 'ol, Captain Checkdown is alive and well.

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Originally Posted by fjrider (Post 5232390)
Oh my goodness, I actually watched that video. Watch it.

Watch all the open guys farther down the field that Alek DOES NOT throw to!!

And the absolute best, about 2:30 in, THE RETURN OF THE RIGHT SIDELINE DASH. LMFAO, I've been predicting it's return since the trade, but in the FIRST series he's in, in preseason. OH, the hilarity.

Also note the crossing guy in this frozen pic., that guy is open for Kaep, but since the defender is within 5 yards, not for Alek. There's another one early in the video the crossing guy is even Alek open, no one near him, and he still checks down.
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Originally Posted by nicnac28 (Post 5233623)
Classic Alex Smith plays... even all of these faithful Alex Smith lovers can admit that CK would have hit that guy 9 times out of 10.

Mav 08-12-2013 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9879698)
49ers fans chime in!
so essentially, last night, was like your one day to be cool, and you are back in full on douche mode tonight?


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