Yuck.

What do those red zone stats for last year look like?

Why yuck?

if this season blows up in their face, which it very well could and we have a losing record, there is a good chance this team drafts any one of those guys you just "yucked" at

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That is the best pass I've seen him make, though. If he would make that throw all the time, he might actually be an above-average QB. This is what Andy Reid is working on, I guess ... we'll see if it works.

That was a third down play with less than 30 ticks left off the clock, when a FG does San Francisco no good. As it is, I don't think you see that throw in normal situations.

Might be true...but Colin was worse than him in 2012..not a knock on Colin...but maybe it was a function of something greater than the QB? By the way, why would you pick a single year that wasn't the most recent year unless you wanted people to pick you apart for it?

I think I'm too rookie to post links. So I quote it so that people can see.

I'm not going to argue if he makes that throw in normal circumstances. I think he does occasionally, but not often. He does however do it when his back is against the wall. I think with this offense, that is good enough to make the play-offs. We will see.

2011 paints the most accurate and complete picture of Alex Smith.

Please elaborate your reasoning.

He played a full season.

Extrapolating based on 8 games in 2012 is inaccurate data.

Sure, it might be/probably is. But good enough to make the playoffs isn't good enough. I don't care or really have any interest in "good enough to make the playoffs."

If you're not willing to make that throw all the time, playoff success and deep wins and runs are hard to accomplish.

First year under a new head coach and new system provides the most accurate data? Bullshit. Post the 2012 stats.

Because none of those guys have distinguished themselves as an NFL caliber starting QB.

Bridgewater has had one good season against mediocre competition and he's on the south side of 200 lbs.

Murray is completely erratic who performs at his worst in the bigger games. He's also shorter than what you want in a starting NFL QB. He's a fifth year senior in 2013 and if he was as good as he's supposed to be, he would have been in this past draft as the talent level supposedly wasn't as high as it usually is, but he decided to stay and enter the 2014 draft. That should tell you a lot about the 2014 draft class right there.

McCarron is average at best supported by a legit NFL offensive line and a NFL talent level defense.

David Fales is a poor man's version of Barkley. He's got a nice arm, but absolutely zero mobility. On the season (2012) he had 42 rushing attempts for -139 yards.

None of these guys are even close to being in the same class as Geno or Barkley or even Manuel in terms of a pro prospect. Bridgewater is probably closest, but his numbers come against sub-par competition and he's scrawny as hell.

If the Chiefs didn't draft Geno or Barkley for Reid's west coast system, you sure as shit aren't going to see one of these guys next year.

The desire from some fans for this team drafting any QB in the first round no matter who the hell it is is utterly amazing.

Considering this is his first year under a new hc and oc, id say 11 is the most relevant anyway.

I keep saying logan thomas.and nobody listens.

Aaron murray doesn't shit himself in big games either not to mention he plays bama pretty damn well

But are we looking at just this year, or are we interested in seeing if he is capable of growing? Or, with two QBs to look at last year in that system, if maybe it was the system (or coaching) itself?

I personally think '12 is well worth a look.