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Pasta Little Brioni 06-02-2019 10:26 AM

Fire mo

BigRedChief 06-02-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14291963)
Fire mo

He said his job is to make Dewitt money. He's putting huge piles of cash in Dewitt's pockets. He's going no where.

DJ's left nut 06-02-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14291980)
He said his job is to make Dewitt money. He's putting huge piles of cash in Dewitt's pockets. He's going no where.

This is what happens when your organization targets 90 wins. That's their goal.

There's no rope there at all. When you get 3 win Goldschmidt instead of 5 win Goldschmidt, then your entire starting staff fails to show, you end up with an 85 win team in pretty short order. And that's IF you finally figure out a solution to the rotation rather than just continue to ride flagging pitching.

This is why championship teams don't sit there thinking "eh, we're fine at 90 wins..." - no, they go trade for Gerrit Cole. Or they sign JD Martinez. They don't just target the minimum of what they need to do to make the post-season; they give themselves room for that potential stumble so they can either pull past it or flat out exceed it.

The Cardinals simply aren't as committed as the teams that are actually winning things right now.

TEX 06-02-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14291788)
Well, two nights in a row I got to watch the Cardinals beat the Cubs in bars filled with pissed off Cub fans.

I feel a little better now. :D

LOL! I HEAR ya! I loved seeing the Stros, without Altuve, Springer & Correa, do that to the Cubs. Obnoxious Cub fan showed up in force, and had to watch hopelessly as their team couldn't even beat us with 3 of our best players out. ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-02-2019 02:21 PM

Schildt actually handles his starters worse than Matheny.

George Liquor 06-02-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14292225)
Schildt actually handles his starters worse than Matheny.

Wong saved his ass.

DJ's left nut 06-02-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14292225)
Schildt actually handles his starters worse than Matheny.

That was absolutely nuts.

WTF was the purpose? We have some actual good relievers on this team and...just...why?

Jewish Rabbi 06-02-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14292229)
That was absolutely nuts.

WTF was the purpose? We have some actual good relievers on this team and...just...why?

I mean, there are 3 good relievers... 4 if you want to be generous and include Martinez. The rest are garbage.

DJ's left nut 06-02-2019 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 14292234)
I mean, there are 3 good relievers... 4 if you want to be generous and include Martinez. The rest are garbage.

And?

I didn't say we had 10 of 'em. But Brebbia, Gant and Hicks have been good. Hell, Gallegos has been shockingly effective (one of the best K rates in the league right now).

The real hell of it is that this club is spending roughly $19 million on lefthanded relievers and with 3 lefties up in 4 batters, we just left Wainwright out there to face them.

Because when it comes to lefty relievers - yeah, everything we have is complete trash.

BigRedChief 06-02-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14292225)
Schildt actually handles his starters worse than Matheny.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14292229)
That was absolutely nuts.

WTF was the purpose? We have some actual good relievers on this team and...just...why?

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14292227)
Wong saved his ass.

yep.

WTF was that? 37 year old pitcher with 124 pitches. 1 run game. 2 runners on. 1 out. Bottom of the 8th. 2/3/4 hitters coming up including MVP hitters. You have proven relievers ready to go.

There is no scenario that it’s okay to allow that pitcher to throw another pitch. None. Doesn’t matter if it worked out. That’s more of that stupid Matheny managing. Have to trust my guys to get the out. :#

Frazod 06-02-2019 06:18 PM

At least when I go to work tomorrow I get to be the abuser, instead of the abusee. :thumb:

Jewish Rabbi 06-02-2019 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14292237)
And?

I didn't say we had 10 of 'em. But Brebbia, Gant and Hicks have been good. Hell, Gallegos has been shockingly effective (one of the best K rates in the league right now).

The real hell of it is that this club is spending roughly $19 million on lefthanded relievers and with 3 lefties up in 4 batters, we just left Wainwright out there to face them.

Because when it comes to lefty relievers - yeah, everything we have is complete trash.

I’m not saying leaving Wainwright in was the correct move at all, just saying the bullpen isn’t bulletproof either. Of the three “good” guys, Brebbia has already shown signs of overuse and Hicks has pitched like shit his last few outings.

BigRedChief 06-02-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14292428)
At least when I go to work tomorrow I get to be the abuser, instead of the abusee. :thumb:


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Marcellus 06-03-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 14292227)
Wong saved his ass.

That is no shit. What an absolutely amazing catch at a huge time. Yea Waino gutted out 1,000,000 pitches but he shouldn't have had to.

That was like hitting on a 15 and getting a 5 when the house is showing a 6 in blackjack and then acting like you did the right thing because it worked out.

Frazod 06-03-2019 09:09 AM

I've been being a complete douche to everybody this morning and really enjoying it. :)


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