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TEX 02-13-2025 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968189)
And Thuney had been holding up because elite pass rushers were still trying to run around him and his short little arms.

Once the Eagles figured out, nope, just bulldoze him, the last Jenga block holding our OL fell and the whole structure collapsed.

Yes sir. Fangio had 2 weeks. The left side gave way almost instantly whether it was Thuney or Calliendo, who is not a starting caliber NFL Guard to begin with.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17968195)
Yes sir. Fangio had 2 weeks. The left side gave way almost instantly whether it was Thuney or Calliendo, who is not a starting caliber NFL Guard to begin with.

I'm still shocked Reid didn't switch it up after a series or two.

As soon as you see Thuney getting pushed back into Mahomes that fast you need to act.


Was Humphries really that bad?

TEX 02-13-2025 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968197)
I'm still shocked Reid didn't switch it up after a series or two.

As soon as you see Thuney getting pushed back into Mahomes that fast you need to act.


Was Humphries really that bad?

I thought the same thing. At least I thought we could have a situation where if moved Thuney inside, and we have our interior three, which is our strength against theirs, and at least we would have had a fighting chance...:shrug: But to answer your question, Humphries must have been THAT bad. I mean he had been taking half the reps at LT at practice, so Reid & Co. must not have liked what they saw.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 07:32 PM

Andy Heck seemingly unaware that the reason Thuney had to be moved to LT was due to his failure to develop Kingsley or Wanya?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjspKfVW...pg&name=medium

O.city 02-13-2025 07:43 PM

Everything I’ve read points to Ronnie Stanley hitting the market

Just get that done

TheGuardian 02-13-2025 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17968211)
Everything I’ve read points to Ronnie Stanley hitting the market

Just get that done

There's actually a few really good options in FA if we can just land one.

The draft is a no go. We need a SURE FIRE OPTION. Not another prospect. Or potential.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-13-2025 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17968213)
There's actually a few really good options in FA if we can just land one.

The draft is a no go. We need a SURE FIRE OPTION. Not another prospect. Or potential.


Go on….

List these really good options, please.

Chris Meck 02-13-2025 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17968211)
Everything I’ve read points to Ronnie Stanley hitting the market

Just get that done

Where are you reading this? This would be extremely surprising.

Chris Meck 02-13-2025 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 17968217)
Go on….

List these really good options, please.

Really, there's just Stanley, who I'll be shocked if he doesn't stay put- and Jackson, who is likely to be available because he is plan B in LA and they won't pay both.

And that's about it.

O.city 02-13-2025 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17968225)
Where are you reading this? This would be extremely surprising.

Read a few articles today, they don’t have the cap for it right now unless they restructure some guys

Few guys in Baltimore said they’d heard he was gonna hit the market

ChiefsHawk 02-13-2025 08:28 PM

You go after Jackson as he'll only get better. If I remember correctly he didn't start playing football until his sophomore or junior year in high school.

DRM08 02-13-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17968232)
Read a few articles today, they don’t have the cap for it right now unless they restructure some guys

Few guys in Baltimore said they’d heard he was gonna hit the market

Baltimore could play the Void Year game like Philadelphia and easily keep Stanley. If they let him walk, it’s because of the injury history. They don’t want him missing a ton of games on a big money deal, which already happened in recent years.

RealSNR 02-13-2025 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968201)
Andy Heck seemingly unaware that the reason Thuney had to be moved to LT was due to his failure to develop Kingsley or Wanya?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjspKfVW...pg&name=medium

You can blame Heck for a lot of things, but Kingsley/Wanya this year isn't one of them.

Wanya's just not very good, man. He was good not great in college, and in the pros he's not good. He doesn't have a tackle's frame at all. Looks really small compared to other LTs. He's got a low ceiling, and I don't think his floor was ever high enough to give serious consideration to his possibility of being a franchise tackle for a team one day. Dude got arrested for weed possession in the offseason, and while that's a stupid law that he broke, how the **** do you get arrested for that sort of thing? You kind of have to be an idiot to get caught with that shit.

And Kingsley's got the frame, but he's so damn young and raw. I don't know who the greatest OL coach of all time is, but if he were on staff and were assigned the task of coaching Kingsley, even that coach would need more time than we gave Kingsley given where he started. And yeah, I was in favor of starting him in the offseason, but I figured we'd be a little smarter about bringing him along than we actually were. I really doubt that was Andy Heck's idea to leave him out on an island like that, and even if it were, he doesn't have the power within the organization to make that kind of decision-- that one is entirely on Nagy and Reid.

I'm still excited and dare I say even optimistic about what Kingsley can do. Wanya not so much. In both cases, though, their failures this season aren't the fault of Heck.

TRR 02-13-2025 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17968213)
There's actually a few really good options in FA if we can just land one.

The draft is a no go. We need a SURE FIRE OPTION. Not another prospect. Or potential.

We don’t need a sure fire option. We need a consistently good enough option. Not a star, or an all pro, or a pro bowl level LT. Fisher wasn’t great. Brown Jr. wasn’t great. Donovan Smith wasn’t great. They were all consistently good enough. And our Offense was good enough for a Super Bowl.

Stanley, Robinson, Jackson all fit that bill. It just depends on if KC wants younger, higher ceiling, less injury risk, veteran presence, etc.

TheGuardian 02-13-2025 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 17968276)
We don’t need a sure fire option. We need a consistently good enough option. Not a star, or an all pro, or a pro bowl level LT. Fisher wasn’t great. Brown Jr. wasn’t great. Donovan Smith wasn’t great. They were all consistently good enough. And our Offense was good enough for a Super Bowl.

Stanley, Robinson, Jackson all fit that bill. It just depends on if KC wants younger, higher ceiling, less injury risk, veteran presence, etc.

That is what I mean by "sure fire". SOLID. Dependable.

We ain't gonna get a Roaf in this FA but we can get a GOOD LT.


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