Have you ever posted more than just a line or two to insult some poster or player? Have you any real use at all here? :hmmm:

And that's the key for those guys.....Limit the turnovers while still racking up yards and points.

Insults are all they have. Throw facts that show them they're wrong and you're stupid. It's sad really

Alex Smith does for the most part Limit the turnovers

He has got to start putting up some more points but in some ways the amount of time his type of offense runs off the clock is also something that has helped the defense. And that's going to be the type of offense that beats Peyton. Peyton can't be throwing tds while sitting on the sideline there's some use in an offense like that

It's not just about limiting turnovers... it's knowing when to take the risks and when to play it safe. I think it just as important to restrain aggression as it is to cut loose and take some shots. Some very talented QBs just can not take some of the gunslinger out of their game... and that often hurts their team at really bad times. Whereas, Alex needs to add some gunslinger at times... but it can be hard to question him when he is the #1 win % QB of the last 3 seasons. :hmmm:

It's also about Ball control. If you Control the ball then you control the game

Outside of the Dallas game the Chiefs have won TOP every week and by some good margins. That's part of the reason the Chiefs have had the field position they have. It's not just the d has played well. It's that instead of just going 3 and out the Chiefs manage to get a 1st or 2 a good amount of the time. They get the ball between the 40s and seem to stall out. That allows Dustin to do his thing and why they get the good field position. It's not just about the defense folks. It's mostly about the D but the offense hasn't been as useless as some think

Yeah, just look at the first KC offensive possession vs Tennessee. We are around midfield.. stuck in 3rd and 15 due to yet another O-penalty... Alex hits McCluster and he gets the first down... oh, but wait... an offensive penalty on Avery negates that and sets us back further.

There have been lots of those situations that have cost us extended drives. They have to clean this stuff up... all very fixable mistakes.

Ive been checked out for almost 2 weeks (death in the family) and I cant believe what Im coming back to on this board.

First of all we are 5-0 with a strong possibilty of being 6-0 by Sunday afternoon, yet people are still bitching about the QB and continually reaching to make sure theyre right about how much he sucks.

Is our D the reason we are winning games? Hell yeah! We have a SB caliber defense. However, our offense stays on the field and keeps our amazingly talented D rested. Our QB uses his legs, not just his arm, to keep drives alive, and for the most part he is smart with the ball.

I love (In the other thread) how now ALMOST INTs are real stats. Smith should have 9 INTs, there fore HE DOES HAVE THAT MANY. I read that and thought, wait, I know Ive been disconnected but our QB has thrown 9 INTs???????? Oh no, not at all, he almost did, so now HE DID. Of course hes the only QB in the league who has a stat of ALMOST INTs. Un-****ing-real people!

Get the **** over it already. We are winning. We could actually go 11-5 or even 12-4, mainly because of our D, but our QB plays a positive role in our winning games too. So change your tampons, take some midol and stop being such whiney little ****ing bitches.

Penalties really killed them early against Tennessee. They had WAY WAY to many. A number of pre-snap flags and they had to burn timeouts way to early. The offense as a whole just didn't seem to have it together at the start

Great post! welcome back, and condolences on your loss.

... and to the bolded above? "yeah right!... you had to know this crap would be here waiting for you!" :doh!:

Thanks doll. Yeah, I guess I shouldnt be surprised.

I've never even spoken to BlackBob. I barely know who he is.

We ARE turning the ball over, jackass. We've had multiple turnovers in each of our last two games.

Why did you capitalize "improvement?"

I meant to say as much geeze what is it with you and the insults?

Claynus and SDH

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Giraffes have black tongues I'm using facts See

^That's what you sound like

Chief of Grammar police is back

Congrats you got me I'm poor with grammar

120 yards rushing a game is better then 122

^that's what you people sound like and what have outright said

Hard to compare both individuals when one has been in the NFL for 7 seasons.

:thumb: You hit the nail on the head, as usual.

Are you new here...?

11-5? 12-4?

Wow!

What if we could go 13-3?! Wouldn't that be something! No team that ever does THAT well has anything wrong with them!

Yup.

Brilliant idea for a thread.

13-3 when our offense has been playing conservative to save their best for the playoffs!! SuperBowl BABY!!! WOOOOOOO!

Why does this feel so familiar?

Particularly with such disparate penile melanin content.

Did you know Steve Bono and Alex Smith both have 9 letters in there names to?

I also noticed Alex's middle name is Douglas so can we start calling checking downs "Doing the Dougie"?

5-0 is great. It's much better than 0-5. It's much more fun. No one disputes that.

But there's an expiration date on winning games with the formula the Chiefs have been using. We all know this. We have seen it time and time again. The Chiefs offense - and Alex Smith's play - need to look much more like what they did in the second half against the Giants or on a few drives here and there than the aggregate, if you have any hopes for winning playoff games and having a shot.

I keep seeing people talk about how much our offense 'stays on the field' but considering that it has inherited the best starting field position in the NFL, on average, and still has punted more than all but two teams, I don't think the 'stays on the field' argument really holds water.

The offense has done a great job limited turnovers, but there is luck involved there, too (fumbles popping right back to KC - such as Knile Davis's kickoff return fumble, Alex Smith getting lucky on non-interceptions). Eventually, that luck will even out.

No one disputes that the offense HAS to get better or it will cost us a game or to.But some are acting like it already has

This brand of offense to me feels different because of what happens late in games. Those were the games that we have lost so so often in the past. This year they are going down and winning the game. Years past they would have just gone 3 and out or a pick 6 would have been thrown.

It's like they flip some switch in the 4th and are a very different offense then what they were at the start of the day. They need to flip that switch earlier you can't always think that you will be in position to just flip it and win every 4th at some point it will cost you that I don't think anyone would argue.

The ball has been bouncing our way a lot and Smith has thrown some balls the could have and some that should have been picked. To say otherwise is being dishonest. But the good news is that luck has been on our side at a good time. When Alex is starting in the new offense with his new teammates and working out some bugs.

2011 Niners went to the NFCCG with that formula. Luck did run out. Two botched ST plays. Take either one away, the Niners would have been in the Superbowl.

One difference though: Alex is passing more and putting up more yards per game than he did in 2011.

There were the 2 recorded INTs from Smith that were very unlucky... one, Bowe getting manhandled from inside position on a quick-hit slant... two, the ball bouncing up off of JC's leg and bouncing onto the defender.. Perhaps, the 3rd INT was unlucky too... the rain started falling hard just as Alex threw a short one over the head of JC.. clearly the ball left Smith's hand wrong and floated.. very likely due to that sudden heavy rain.

QBs all over get lucky every week with some near-INTs.

In other words... you are trying way too hard to go against your own offense.

I kind of scratch my head at that "almost pick" stat as well. Trying to find the same stat for other QBs, and I can't. I wonder why?

also, take one of Eli's near-INTs, and the game swings SF's way... how about the refs calling momentum stopped just after the NYG running back fumbles it to us...

They also had horrible QB play in the championship game. Something that is frequently left out. 1-13 on 3rd down conversions, sub 50% completion percentage, only 5 passing first downs.

The one from Bowe I thought Bowe could have put up more of a fight But I also thought it wasn't thrown as well as it needed to be.

The 2nd one against the Giants nothing you can do when the ball bounces like that but tip your cap. Lucky bounce and the Giants guy made a play tip of the cap

The 3rd one was the worst. It reminded me of Cassel. The rain thing did happen so I guess you should take that into thought but Man that was a bad throw.

Alex's play in the NFCCG certainly left a lot to be desired.

You're missing the point though. Which is that the Chiefs aren't necessarily going to implode during the regular season or go one and done in the playoffs.

They sure did. What happened when they got there? How did that formula work out on offense?

Yeah, the fumbles cost them. YOu know what else cost them? Alex Smith playing like hot garbage and being unable to "flip the switch" and move that offense when he needed to break the tie and win the game.

And the Giants with uber-elite Eli were 3-15. It's called a defensive battle.

Hey, I agree, his play was luke warm at best in the NFCCG. Still, he did not implode during the regular season, and he produced against the Saints, in heroic style, when we needed it. I am just saying that his current level of play doesn't mean you miss the playoffs or go one and done.

You might also consider that Alex's YPG was 196 in 2011. He is at 268 average over the last three games. I would expect, and you are getting, better play than the Niners got in 2011.

the issue here is that what the niners defense held the giants offense to has absolutely nothing to do with how alex smith and the niners offense played in that game

More than you do, ball-licker.

Guess you are new. That is NEVER left out. That horse has been beaten to death, sent to the glue factory, the glue shaped into another horse, beaten again, then that poor horse came back reincarnated as a roach, that was then promptly stomped on.

No, that horse has definitely been beaten.......

Yeah. Hard to flip a switch without 2 of your top three wide outs.

Was even harder for Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, and Tom Brady, who all played in better weather, with better supporting casts. Yet, they all lost too.

yet, alex smith, who everyone knows isn't of the caliber player that those three are, love to make this about Alex Smith.

Makes sense.......

I wanted to have both :(

If only the same could've been done to the person who thought trading for Smiff was a good plan

You would beat andy and Dorsey?

I don't know if I would go that far. I think what they thought was that Geno would be a first round pick. I don't think if they knew they could of had geno in the second at 34, that they would of traded for Alex Smith.

and if you look at it objectively, you would understand that Geno wasn't even the JETS FIRST........OR SECOND option. They went Milliner, Richardson, before even thinking of Geno. So he wasn't high to a lot of people. Including THE JETS.

I as a chiefs fan. Am not complaining about 5 wins a season after only winning two.

What a novel idea you have there not complaining when you haven't lost 1 Game where did you come up with this

I think that given there were reports of a mystery team having a deal in place for Smith before the combine even started, that they didn't give the thought of drafting a QB any serious thought. I think they went in knowing that Alex was their guy, and that Fisher or Joeckel was gonna be the pick. Happy as hell to be 5-0 don't get me wrong, but jesus christ, enough with the shitty retread QB's who always fail to meet expectations and get bounced off the team after the "win now" shit fails yet again.

Andy Reid wanted Alex Smith he made no bones about it. He tried to go after him when he was in Philly. So no there was no thought in drafting a QB. It was ranked one of the weakest QB classes in YEARS not where you would want to get your QB with. I know you rank Geno high but the people who have the job to rank guys said otherwise. Time will tell who was right

About this retread thing. The facts once again get in the way. Trent Green was the last good QB we had you would have ran him out. We drafted Brodie how did that turn out? This we need to draft a QB talk is just that talk. How many bust do you people have to see before you get this idea that if we just draft a Qb everything will be great. For crying out loud a Qb won a superbowl after bagging groceries. I'm sure Rams fans are upset they got a "retread" So are Cards fans after he took them to the superbowl as well

This. And done, it could have been.

Chase Daniel? WTF?

aww geno fanboys

Can't argue facts so they throw insults or what they think is an insult around.

It's pretty telling that you people throw chiefs fans cheering the Chiefs as an insult. Shows that you're more Geno fans then Chiefs fan so go join a jet board?

You'll understand after another 20 years of following this team, kiddo.

Spoken like a Chiefs fan of 6 months.

Strange I've been a Chiefs fan for almost 20 years and I feel the same way

LMAO Some day you'll understand.

Maybe I will

then again maybe someday you people will stop crying that they didn't get the QB you wanted and actually cheer for the Chiefs again

Did you ever complain about Matt Cassel?

Chiefs fans watch the game to see the chiefs win and when they win they are happy


You people watch to say what can i use to bash alex smith and Eric Fisher even when they win which they have

Yes I complained about Cassel but not when we won

cool post

Right, and that includes pretty much everyone on the board including guys that want Geno.

So even if Cassel threw for 100 yards and 3 picks it was okay because we won? Cool

The thing is we have won and Smith HASN'T Thrown for 100 yards and 3 picks

He has every time taken us down the field and WON THE DAMN GAME.

Yet you people go on and on about Yards YPC YAC yards WHO GIVES A SHIT? WE FREAKING WON. This isn't the same as 2010,2011 this team hasn't folded in a close game they have taken the game OVER and WON. But don't let that get in the way of your Geno love

I'll leave you with this

Geno fan logic

2012 We need a QB who won't turn the ball over

2013 Ignore all those turnovers and mistakes by Geno he was clearly the choice

Yep sure are smart

And therein lies the heart of the violent, deadly, fight to the death over Alex that is unique to his situation.

Not only do people complain about him, other people complain about the complaining.

Which of course leads to complaining about the complaining about the complaining.

And so on.

A chain reaction.

Which will ultimately destroy Kansas City and all outlying areas.

Yes, you will rue the day when you traded for Alex Smith.

You're over your head kiddo. People enjoy the winning, the fear however is that it's not going to be enough in the long haul to bring home the Lombardi which should be the goal. We can be excited about the current winning but be cautious about the future of the team with Alice at QB. You can do both. I think Alice will be a fine place holder until our Kaepernick comes along and takes us to the next level. As Milkman put it "Let the Bar-B-Q and playoff loses flow" until then.

Geno wont win a Superbowl so whats your point?

You do know ST cost Alex Smith the Superbowl in 2011 right?

I'll tell you who gives a shit: People who have higher goals than making the playoffs. People who want to be able to win playoff games against complete, elite teams.

You're apparently not smart enough to understand that argument, though, or that formulas that can be highly successful in the regular season blow up in your face in the playoffs.

Also, your "Geno fan logic" is so far off base, it's laughable.

Geno fan logic is simple: The best shot at winning consistently and winning in the playoffs is to have an elite QB who can carry a team. The best way to get one of those QBs is to draft and develop him in house. Geno Smith has the physical tools to be that QB.

You won't find a single Geno fan whose No. 1 goal at the QB spot this past offseason was acquiring a QB who would just not turn it over.

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There's a difference between being Cautious and going to extremes to bash a guy. You people go to EXTREMES to bash Alex with all your nicknames and crying about YPC YAC yards BOO HOO

Anyone who dares to point out other problems in the offense besides Fisher and Smith is met with Excuses Dumbass ECT When you hide behind the rookie excuse for Geno Smith's mistakes and he has made FAR MORE then Alex. More then TRIPLE. You then hide behind the Defense when the Jets D has bailed Geno out for his turnover is most there wins. Funny how that doesn't get brought up.

When and If Smith fails us in the playoffs I won't be happy but I don't pretend to know it's going to happen because I didn't get my way.

And you're the only ones who think that about Smith. EVERY gm who had a chance and needed a QB passed on him Including the Jets. Had buttfumble not been hurt he would have been starting the week he got hurt rex ryan publicly talked about how bad geno had been in practice
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After the Titians game there were questions about If Geno would keep the job which ryan refused to answer but then he goes and beats up a horrible defense and you people start pimping him as the next great guy SMH

GM's have never been wrong or overlooked a prospect for stupid reasons. That's why Justin Houston was a high first round pick. That's why Tony Romo was a high first round pick. That's why Brian Waters was a high first round pick. GM's simply don't miss good prospects, and they have a 100% rate of success.

Wait...

They have a better track record then you or I

But I'm sure teams have been knocking on your door begging you to run there team

They might be wrong about Geno He hasn't proven that yet. The jury has only just begun talking about it. But you people act like he's proven something

This is actually false.

Against Dallas, when they jumped up to a 14-13 lead in the 3rd Q, the drive that led us back...

1st and 10 at KC 20 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to D.Bowe to KC 29 for 9 yards (B.Carr).
2nd and 1 at KC 29 J.Charles right tackle to KC 31 for 2 yards (J.Hatcher).
1st and 10 at KC 31 (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to D.Avery.
2nd and 10 at KC 31 (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to J.Charles to KC 32 for 1 yard (B.Church).
Timeout #1 by KC at 05:09.
3rd and 9 at KC 32 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass deep right to D.Avery to DAL 37 for 31 yards (W.Allen).
1st and 10 at DAL 37 (No Huddle) J.Charles right end to DAL 36 for 1 yard (J.Hatcher).
2nd and 9 at DAL 36 (No Huddle) A.Smith pass short left to J.Charles pushed ob at DAL 26 for 10 yards (B.Carter).
1st and 10 at DAL 26 (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to D.Bowe.
2nd and 10 at DAL 26 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to A.Fasano to DAL 12 for 14 yards (B.Church).
1st and 10 at DAL 12 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to D.Bowe for 12 yards, TOUCHDOWN. KC-A.Fasano was injured during the play.


That's 8 passes and 2 runs.... thoughts on that?



Now to the other game where we needed the lead back... Titans

When the Titans scored their 4th quarter TD, they led 17-13.

First drive failed with 2 passes and 3 runs.
The next TD drive that put us back on top?

1st and 10 at KC 34 A.Smith pass incomplete short left to S.McGrath.
2nd and 10 at KC 34 A.Smith pass deep left to D.Bowe ran ob at TEN 49 for 17 yards.
1st and 10 at TEN 49 J.Charles up the middle to TEN 47 for 2 yards (J.Casey).
2nd and 8 at TEN 47 A.Smith pass short right to S.McGrath to TEN 44 for 3 yards (J.McCourty).
3rd and 5 at TEN 44 (Shotgun) A.Smith scrambles right end pushed ob at TEN 42 for 2 yards (M.Fokou). PENALTY on TEN-M.Fokou, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 42.
1st and 10 at TEN 27 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to J.Charles to TEN 18 for 9 yards (T.Campbell).
2nd and 1 at TEN 18 J.Charles left end to TEN 16 for 2 yards (G.Wilson; M.Griffin).
1st and 10 at TEN 16 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to A.Sherman to TEN 8 for 8 yards (G.Wilson; Z.Brown).
2nd and 2 at TEN 8 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to D.Bowe to TEN 1 for 7 yards (M.Griffin).
1st and 1 at TEN 1 A.Smith pass incomplete short right to D.Bowe. PENALTY on TEN-G.Wilson, Defensive Pass Interference, 0 yards, enforced at TEN 1 - No Play.
1st and 1 at TEN 1 J.Charles left tackle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.


Now that is 7 passes and 3 runs... plus another Alex run, which was a huge conversion due to penalty.

Thoughts on that?



You ready to eat your words and apologize for getting that shit wrong, Snapplez? Man up!



Where you at, yo? :hmmm:

Facts don't matter to the Geno lovers.

Wins and losses don't either

Football is all about yards,YPC,YAC that's what really matters SMH

Really? I thought it was his shitty ability to convert on 3rd down

How do you know?

The ability to move the football is overrated/ Mattschiefs