Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9827587)

You've got two Pro-Bowl level guys in Flowers and Berry. That's 50% of the secondary. You need more to be an elite secondary? (And Sean Smith should be pretty damn good in this defense, which will press a lot.) Free safety quality is going to be determined by Lewis' health - when he's healthy, he's a pretty good cover guy. As well, I have a lot of positive expectations regarding McDougald and Commings.

And they added Dunta Robinson at the nickel.

That's a pretty loaded secondary by anyone's estimation.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827337)

Again. Look who you are comparing against. The best of the best. Also, Alex Smith does not and has not had a Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Randall Cobb, Donald Driver, James Jones, and Jermichael Finley.

He did not have an Eric Decker, or Demarius Thomas. At some point, that has to become relevant. Alex Smith is GONE from the 49ers, yet they still traded for Boldin, still drafted a TIGHT END, and a receiver. Kaeperick is 10 times more talented than Alex Smith. Now, put alex smith with Denver, or Green Bays receivers, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, he is not going to put up those numbers, that's not what im saying. But he might throw a few more chance balls, or deep balls.......hes not peyton, nor Rodgers, just illustrating the point of the difference in PLAY MAKERS.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9827360)

Good grief. Please stop comparing Alex Smith to the elite QBs in the game. Just stop.

And by the way, Aaron Rodgers has some of the worst RBs and O-line to support him. And Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and Peyton have all excelled with some shitty supporting casts due to injury. Rodgers played in a Super Bowl with his #3 guy as his #1. Brees once played with Terrence Copper as one of his #1 guys. Peyton played with Garcon as his #1 once. And Brady made the AFC Championship with Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as his #1 guy.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9827461)

In the same offense, they go from Alex Smith throwing 19 deep balls to Kaepernick throwing 49. Just shows Alex Smith is a no balls pussy when it comes to throwing deep.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9827649)

I am not talking about bombs.

We need a passing offense that can effectively complete passes in the 15-35 yard range. Green was very good at that range, even though his deep ball wasn't very good.

Alex Smith isn't. And it's going to cost us.

I also don't think Alex Smith is good in the red zone. If you take a look, he threw the fewest TD passes in the entire NFL in 2011 when his team was in the red zone. His completion percentage and, of course, yardage, was also extremely low.

When the opposing team knows your QB can't put the ball in the end zone, bad things happen to your offense. That's just common sense.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9827679)

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That is the best pass I've seen him make, though. If he would make that throw all the time, he might actually be an above-average QB. This is what Andy Reid is working on, I guess ... we'll see if it works.

That was a third down play with less than 30 ticks left off the clock, when a FG does San Francisco no good. As it is, I don't think you see that throw in normal situations.

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9827691)

2011 paints the most accurate and complete picture of Alex Smith.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9827841)

ROFL Those boners are nothing special man. Manning can make anyone look good.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827845)

Eric Decker had 8 tds with Tim tebow. Thomas had 200 yards passing in a playoff game, with TIM TEBOW. They both can ball.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827845)

Eric Decker had 8 tds with Tim tebow. Thomas had 200 yards passing in a playoff game, with TIM TEBOW. They both can ball.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827842)

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9827857)

Decker can suck my ****ing nuts.

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9827858)

I had completely forgotten about the lock out aspect of that season.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9827861)

Swings the smallest, most vanillaest penis in the West.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9827865)

I'd love to see him and chicken-neck sent to the bench by KC.

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827864)

amazing how low the depths of some people. they want to tell the story, but only the part that re enforces their warped beliefs........

Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9827868)

Id be okay with that. Send welker there too.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9827733)

Because none of those guys have distinguished themselves as an NFL caliber starting QB.

Bridgewater has had one good season against mediocre competition and he's on the south side of 200 lbs.

Murray is completely erratic who performs at his worst in the bigger games. He's also shorter than what you want in a starting NFL QB. He's a fifth year senior in 2013 and if he was as good as he's supposed to be, he would have been in this past draft as the talent level supposedly wasn't as high as it usually is, but he decided to stay and enter the 2014 draft. That should tell you a lot about the 2014 draft class right there.

McCarron is average at best supported by a legit NFL offensive line and a NFL talent level defense.

David Fales is a poor man's version of Barkley. He's got a nice arm, but absolutely zero mobility. On the season (2012) he had 42 rushing attempts for -139 yards.

None of these guys are even close to being in the same class as Geno or Barkley or even Manuel in terms of a pro prospect. Bridgewater is probably closest, but his numbers come against sub-par competition and he's scrawny as hell.

If the Chiefs didn't draft Geno or Barkley for Reid's west coast system, you sure as shit aren't going to see one of these guys next year.

The desire from some fans for this team drafting any QB in the first round no matter who the hell it is is utterly amazing.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9827915)

Admittedly, I haven't watched most of those players very thoroughly but I'd say this is pretty much in line with my thoughts. I would say you could probably add the kid from UNC to the list but that's due to hype and not because I've watched him.