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Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244044)
Eli Manning last 3 years when teams score 24 points

8-14 Man Eli really sucks.

I'd say 8 wins in that scenario is pretty impressive compared to 2.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10243978)
We scored 21 offensive points.

That is not going to be enough to beat Peyton. Even at home.

The defense is what it is. We won games this year when Alex played like total dog shit. Now the shoe is on the other foot, why can't he take advantage of two red zone opportunities?

Same as it ever was, though.

One drive killed when our only 2 passes were perfectly thrown and dropped
One drive killed with a bullshit grounding penalty forcing a 2nd and 20
One drive made more difficult by Dex backing us to the 3 on a horrible decision to field a punt
One drive hurt by a holding penalty forcing a 3rd and 18

I got on Alex's case for a shitty performance last game against Denver. It's really, really hard to pin this one on him. He made his share of mistakes, but his teammates made points a shitload harder than they needed to be.

Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 06:46 PM

The 49ers (and Chiefs) defenses really limited the amount of times Alex was in that kind of situation.

The fact he still only has two wins in three seasons says quite a bit about him.

Brock 12-02-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10244012)
Hes played well enough to get it done. The rest of the team has not. Team sport.

This is bullshit. He got three throws to tie the game. Found wanting.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 06:48 PM

Big Ben last 3 years when teams score 24 points or more

1-9 My god Ben must suck

Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10244050)
I got on Alex's case for a shitty performance last game against Denver. It's really, really hard to pin this one on him. He made his share of mistakes, but his teammates made points a shitload harder than they needed to be.

I'm not pinning the loss on Alex.

He is always going to be incapable of winning a game where the defense falters, though.

Always. Or at least 9 times out of 10.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 06:49 PM

Eli 8-14
Ben 1-9


Just the first 2 QB i looked up should i do more?

Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244055)
Big Ben last 3 years when teams score 24 points or more

1-9 My god Ben must suck

So you basically want to compare the only good period of Alex's career against Ben's lean years.

That's bullshit, son.

At the very least you need to compare Alex's good seasons against Ben's entire career.

But even that is questionable.

Waaaaaaa Alex played on bad teams. Waaaaaaaa.

That still doesn't excuse ZERO wins in that situation.

Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244061)
Eli 8-14
Ben 1-9


Just the first 2 QB i looked up should i do more?

Flacco 6-7

heyoooooooooooooo

Brock 12-02-2013 06:51 PM

And obviously, his field generalship is in question, based on his panicky game management in the red zone.

hometeam 12-02-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244044)
Eli Manning last 3 years when teams score 24 points

8-14 Man Eli really sucks.

Yes and that's still 4x as many as alex

Deberg_1990 12-02-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 10244052)
This is bullshit. He got three throws to tie the game. Found wanting.

Nobody is saying hes Manning, Brady or Brees. But how many guys are??? If you dont have one of those guys, you can still win with decent QB play, but the rest of the team has to pull its weight as well.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10244057)
I'm not pinning the loss on Alex.

He is always going to be incapable of winning a game where the defense falters, though.

Always. Or at least 9 times out of 10.

I think the last 2 games proved that he can carry a team even if the supporting cast is reasonably bad. He can't carry a team when they are unreasonably bad. Few QBs can. I thought Smith's performance the last 2 weeks is very acceptable.

I'm not yet sold he can pull this kind of performance off against a defense that isn't as terrible as San Diego's and isn't as beat up as Denver's.

Brock 12-02-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10244073)
Nobody is saying hes Manning, Brady or Brees. But how many guys are??? If you dont have one of those guys, you can still win with decent QB play, but the rest of the team has to pull its weight as well.

So you agree that he was almost good enough.

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244027)
Talking last 3 years dumbass.

It's usually on the one who questions the stat to disprove it, but I'll help you out. I won't even look at elite guys. I'll just pick some guys whom many have disputed are better than Alex Smith:

Tony Romo is 7-15 over the past three years. Better.

Philip Rivers is 5-19. Better.

Joe Flacco is 6-8. Better.

Matt Ryan is 5-10. Better (and before this disaster of a season, was 3-2).

Matt Schaub is 5-9. Better.


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