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SAUTO 12-02-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10244271)
Extra effort catches? They were catches on decent throws. Smith bailed his receivers out -- they dropped too many passes in the final 2 drives, and yet we managed to keep getting first downs. Your take is completely unreasonable.

Also, the offense scored 21 points. YOu can't just erase points because it was a shorter field.

im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...

Deberg_1990 12-02-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10244288)
No one is erasing TD. But Alex doesn't get credit for a TD on a 20-yard drive. The defense gifted the offense that field position.

:facepalm:

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10244285)
im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...

Avery dropped 2 passes on the Charles TD drive.

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10244260)
Jesus...you are worse than Wendler with this bullshit. And it is bullshit.

If you are so ****ing against Smith as our QB, tell me right now who we should have who is better. Right now.

Tell me who we are going to draft or pick up in free agency for the 2014 season who is better. Do it. Do it now.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...dbq2o1_400.gif

We've all been there, done that. But I'll go there again. Give me a Jason Campbell type plus whatever player the Chiefs could have taken in the 2nd round this year, plus whatever player they could draft in the 2nd round next year (or whatever player they could move up for in round 1/etc).

Give me Jay Cutler in FA if the Bears cut him loose.

But I know what's going to happen. We can already see it happening. The Chiefs are going to spend big (Money/Picks) to improve the OL, WR and TE spots.

And then a lot of Chiefs fans are going to be surprised again when it still isn't enough for Alex Smith to get it done.

SAUTO 12-02-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10244307)
Avery dropped 2 passes on the Charles TD drive.

and still yet most of the drops happened prior to those drives.


I would be more worried about the passes dropped on drives we DONT score on. they matter more.

I would guarantee most sane people would agree that the Jenkins/fasano drop drive was a worse time for them to happen.

they actually killed the drive.

Deberg_1990 12-02-2013 08:01 PM

Heh, Jason Campbell and jay Cutler. Clearly elite QBs.

TheUte 12-02-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10244288)
No one is erasing TD. But Alex doesn't get credit for a TD on a 20-yard drive. The defense gifted the offense that field position.

No you are incorrect, Dude.

He absolutely gets credit, just maybe not in your little world of make believe.

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10244285)
im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...

Avery dropped two in the final two drives. One forced a 3rd and 14 bailed out an excellent throw and catch to Jenkins. The other was on the goal line where Avery dropped another pass and was bailed out by McCluster reaching for 5 yards and getting a facemask penalty.

SAUTO 12-02-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10244322)
No you are incorrect, Dude.

He absolutely gets credit, just maybe not in your little world of make believe.

the offense still has to get in the endzone. gotta get some credit for that

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10244320)
and still yet most of the drops happened prior to those drives.


I would be more worried about the passes dropped on drives we DONT score on. they matter more.

I would guarantee most sane people would agree that the Jenkins/fasano drop drive was a worse time for them to happen.

they actually killed the drive.

I am just talking about duncan's claim that receivers were bailing Smith out. That is a pretty ridiculous claim.

SAUTO 12-02-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10244327)
Avery dropped two in the final two drives. One forced a 3rd and 14 bailed out an excellent throw and catch to Jenkins. The other was on the goal line where Avery dropped another pass and was bailed out by McCluster reaching for 5 yards and getting a facemask penalty.

I didn't dispute that. and it still doesn't make me wrong.

more, and more impactful drops happened prior to those drives

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10244271)
Extra effort catches? They were catches on decent throws. Smith bailed his receivers out -- they dropped too many passes in the final 2 drives, and yet we managed to keep getting first downs. Your take is completely unreasonable.

Also, the offense scored 21 points. YOu can't just erase points because it was a shorter field.

I'm not erasing points. I just look at a touchdown scored when starting from the opponents' 20 after a turnover a little differently than a touchdown scored when starting from your own 20.

Glad they converted it into 7.

I'm talking about McCluster making a diving catch, Bowe a nice leaping catch, etc. Think Jenkins also had a pretty tough catch on that drive, in addition to the one off of his shoelaces on third down.

O.city 12-02-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10244313)
We've all been there, done that. But I'll go there again. Give me a Jason Campbell type plus whatever player the Chiefs could have taken in the 2nd round this year, plus whatever player they could draft in the 2nd round next year (or whatever player they could move up for in round 1/etc).

Give me Jay Cutler in FA if the Bears cut him loose.

But I know what's going to happen. We can already see it happening. The Chiefs are going to spend big (Money/Picks) to improve the OL, WR and TE spots.

And then a lot of Chiefs fans are going to be surprised again when it still isn't enough for Alex Smith to get it done.

Sorry, but if the last 2 games are any indicator of future play that's what they absolutely should do.

TheUte 12-02-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10244329)
the offense still has to get in the endzone. gotta get some credit for that

Nah, scoring is easy. Everyone knows that.

SAUTO 12-02-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10244338)
I am just talking about duncan's claim that receivers were bailing Smith out. That is a pretty ridiculous claim.

would say that there were maybe two times that happened, BUT that happens with every qb.


EDIT: I was wrong, Duncan listed 4 balls that weren't exactly accurate. he's right


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