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O.city 12-02-2013 08:05 PM

All season people wanted Alex to give wrs chances down the field to make plays. Now what?

Hammock Parties 12-02-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10244359)
All season people wanted Alex to give wrs chances down the field to make plays. Now what?

It'd be nice if he followed those plays with TDs.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10244325)
Heh, Jason Campbell and jay Cutler. Clearly elite QBs.

Yes let's rush to give Cutler 100m some fans are crazy.

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10244277)
I'm sorry I just don't get you guys.

AS should and I think can play better, but he is not the problem with this team right now.

Not even close.

I don't think Alex Smith is the only problem with this team.

But he's part of the problem on offense.

Mediocre offensive line (though it is playing better now that our "Safe" No. 1 overall pick has been replaced in the starting lineup)

Mediocre receiving group, at best.

Mediocre QB.

All adds up to a shit sandwich. Thank Almighty Roger for Jamaal Charles.

SAUTO 12-02-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10244359)
All season people wanted Alex to give wrs chances down the field to make plays. Now what?

I, for one, am giving him props for that.


smith didn't have 350 yards yesterday through no fault of his own.

and im even taking into account the drives where multiple drops occurred that the yardage would have been impossible to have happened.

Jenkins/fasano drop drive. both of them catch those and they are saving someone's life in the parking lot.

and I know play wasn't going towards lot a at that point

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10244325)
Heh, Jason Campbell and jay Cutler. Clearly elite QBs.

Not elite, but Jason Campbell has played at the level we're getting out of Alex Smith and would have been free in terms of draft pick cost AND cost much less in salary (he's currently on a two-year, $3.75 million deal).

I wouldn't give Cutler $100 million, but $75 million/7 or something like that? Sure.

Resigning Alex Smith is going to take you at least into that territory in AAV. They're the same age, Cutler is a better QB, and Cutler's skill set is going to age better than Alex Smith's (since Cutler doesn't rely on his legs at all).

chiefzilla1501 12-02-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10244372)
I don't think Alex Smith is the only problem with this team.

But he's part of the problem on offense.

Mediocre offensive line (though it is playing better now that our "Safe" No. 1 overall pick has been replaced in the starting lineup)

Mediocre receiving group, at best.

Mediocre QB.

All adds up to a shit sandwich. Thank Almighty Roger for Jamaal Charles.

Alex Smith's play the last two weeks is perfectly acceptable by playoff standards. He wasn't elite and he never will be. I don't think it's fair to say he was mediocre the last 2 weeks. He's had to meet a really high bar because things were unreasonably imperfect around him.

GOB 12-02-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10244313)
We've all been there, done that.

Like the Geno Smith campaign? :)

I don't know about Jay Cutler and Jason Campbell. See that as a downgrade.

Basically, to get the QB people want on this board, we are going to have to tank for a couple years and see if can land the next Andrew Luck.

I, for one, am not willing to do that. I think we're close and have a lot of pieces and can hope to get better not just by trades but through natural growth. Reid's in-game management is suspect but I think hes really great at player development.

TheUte 12-02-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10244394)
Not elite, but Jason Campbell has played at the level we're getting out of Alex Smith and would have been free in terms of draft pick cost AND cost much less in salary (he's currently on a two-year, $3.75 million deal).

I wouldn't give Cutler $100 million, but $75 million/7 or something like that? Sure.

Resigning Alex Smith is going to take you at least into that territory in AAV. They're the same age, Cutler is a better QB, and Cutler's skill set is going to age better than Alex Smith's (since Cutler doesn't rely on his legs at all).

Sorry, I can't get with that. JC has proven he capable of being ok when everything is prefect, but with this O-line he would have played 1 or 2 games tops. He doesn't rely on his legs because he doesn't have them.
There are QB's better AS, sure but I don't see any as real options for KC right now.

Sorter 12-02-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUte (Post 10244419)
Sorry, I can't get with that. JC has proven he capable of being ok when everything is prefect, but with this O-line he would have played 1 or 2 games tops. He doesn't rely on his legs because he doesn't have them.
There are QB's better AS, sure but I don't see any as real options for KC right now.

Jay is surprisingly mobile/athletic.

duncan_idaho 12-02-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GOB (Post 10244407)
Like the Geno Smith campaign? :)

I don't know about Jay Cutler and Jason Campbell. See that as a downgrade.

Basically, to get the QB people want on this board, we are going to have to tank for a couple years and see if can land the next Andrew Luck.

I, for one, am not willing to do that. I think we're close and have a lot of pieces and can hope to get better not just by trades but through natural growth. Reid's in-game management is suspect but I think hes really great at player development.

I don't know how a noob who joined in September knows anything about the Great Geno Debate of 2013... but I was in the camp that thought he needed to sit for a year or two. Physical tools are all there. Work to do.

Campbell=Alex Smith over the course of their careers and this season as well (both in fresh offenses that are not very good).

Cutler has consistently been a top 15 QB in this league basically from his first season as an NFL starter on. He's an upgrade. Not a big one, but a decent one.

TheUte 12-02-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10244426)
Jay is surprisingly mobile/athletic.

Do you believe he would be an upgrade?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10244426)
Jay is surprisingly mobile/athletic.

You don't give 100m to QB that seems to be hurt all the time. Would you give Jay 100m? Cause that's what he's gonna get on the open market.

ChiefsCountry 12-02-2013 08:29 PM

Cutler hurt all the time? WTF

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-02-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10244448)
Cutler hurt all the time? WTF

2011- Missed 6 games
2012- Missed 2 games
2013- Missed 5 so far


What do you call that?


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