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Rambozo 01-25-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9350649)
As if all this grading is precise. There is some probability distribution of performance of the player: He may hit his grade, he may underperform his grade, or he may exceed his grade. In the modern NFL, if you don't have one of the 10 best QBs in the league, you can't win -- so you draft a QB, and hope you get right-tail performance. If not, rinse and repeat - and the new rookie scale makes that easier to do.

I mostly agree man and good post. The grades will change on a lot of players before the draft. They always do. The grades almost ALWAYS change after the draft unless you are like Von Miller good. Some guys are better than their initial grade and some guys are worse.

I know teams will reach on QBs more than ever but, there is a cut off point in which they will do so. You can bet your ass they already have a system in place for that very thing and it is accounted for on their draft board. Whether a QB is a ten pick bump after grade, a twenty pick bump, or no bump at all, I don't know?

that's all got to do with how the Chiefs view BPA and like I said yesterday, teams do that differently. There is no specific formulafor all 32 teams like some like to think.

We all have our opinions and predictions but the bottom line is that we can't predict the future and we don't know the Chiefs ranking system. We just have to hope the Chiefs scouts are seeing the right things and look at for ourselves until the draft. Post what you see and read and write it here. Have fun with it.

B14ckmon 01-25-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9350680)
Any injury to a throwing shoulder is cause for concern. The question is how much.

He had a separated shoulder with no tear. The only concern is how much it hurts.

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9350650)
Well I was mostly just speaking in general, not in the context of the Chiefs picking him since I am not actually a Chiefs fan.

But they have been saying all season how Barkley's arm strength is much improved this year. I think this misconception has been coming from some of his highlight videos where he sails them and it's underthrown. And with a lot of those, it's because he sailed the balled too much, not because he didn't throw it hard enough.

:thumb:
This n00b has to be in the running for n00b of the year already.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-25-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9351148)
:thumb:
This n00b has to be in the running for n00b of the year already.

But, but, but the mean ole M.O.B. scare away all the n00b

HotCarl 01-25-2013 06:14 PM

Barkley would be a good pick, but I don't think he is top 5 good. The value just isn't there. Prime candidate to move down to 10 or so. If he is there great, if not, Star or someone else we need.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9351208)
Barkley would be a good pick, but I don't think he is top 5 good. The value just isn't there. Prime candidate to move down to 10 or so. If he is there great, if not, Star or someone else we need.

Star is gonna go in the 2nd round. Didn't go to the Senior Bowl. Afraid of competition, has hidden flaws he didn't want exposed...

Pasta Little Brioni 01-25-2013 06:17 PM

Take at 10, but not at 5. Dumbest "logic" EVER. He's either a potential franchise QB worth taking or you don't take at all.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-25-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9351214)
Star is gonna go in the 2nd round. Didn't go to the Senior Bowl. Afraid of competition, has hidden flaws he didn't want exposed...

ROFL

KCrockaholic 01-25-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9351208)
Barkley would be a good pick, but I don't think he is top 5 good. The value just isn't there. Prime candidate to move down to 10 or so. If he is there great, if not, Star or someone else we need.

YAY FOR VALUE!!! WoOOOOOO

htismaqe 01-25-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9351227)
YAY FOR VALUE!!! WoOOOOOO

I got $45 in my pocket but I'm gonna skip the porterhouse and get a Big Mac.

Yeah me! I'm smarter than everyone!

HotCarl 01-25-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9351227)
YAY FOR VALUE!!! WoOOOOOO

Value is how franchises are built, mortgaging the farm for one player is how the Rickey Williams Saints were built. If we play it safe and make incremental improvements, and draft QBS every year in the mid rounds, we will hit on one and be fine. And maintain a high standard on the roster as well, because value earns you the most, as opposed to continually buying lottery tickets and hoping

B14ckmon 01-25-2013 06:30 PM

Obviously he won't be going in the top 5, but there are too many teams that need QBs in the first round, and teams always reach for the most important position in football.

If it's okay for the Chiefs to take Geno/Wilson #1 overall, I can't imagine complaints if the Cardinals or Bills took Barkley. Barkley is still head and shoulders above anyone at the senior bowl excluding Wilson.

htismaqe 01-25-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9351241)
Value is how franchises are built, mortgaging the farm for one player is how the Rickey Williams Saints were built. If we play it safe and make incremental improvements, and draft QBS every year in the mid rounds, we will hit on one and be fine. And maintain a high standard on the roster as well, because value earns you the most, as opposed to continually buying lottery tickets and hoping

ROFL

Has anybody even REMOTELY suggested we should do that?

:facepalm:

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htismaqe 01-25-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9351314)
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He needs a bottle of Jack.

And a neckbeard.

:D


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