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DaneMcCloud 06-25-2015 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11566575)
I'd still take Luck over him, but Hootie has made me realize wilson is better than I thought. I'm anxious to see how it plays out now.

Of course Hooties qb thoughts generally line up with mine anyway but...

:shrug:
Big Huard fan, are ya?

:p

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-25-2015 05:20 PM
Herm was a draft kind of guy, and all he could pull out of this franchise's ass was 3rd rounder.

Who couldn't beat Chandler Bing for the starting spot.

BigMeatballDave 06-25-2015 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11566569)
That's nice and all, but Luck has no possibility of being on the table.
True, but not the point. I doubt Wilson actually is, either.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-25-2015 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11566597)
True, but not the point. I doubt Wilson actually is, either.
This.

Pure posturing to drive the price down, and you can blame Flacco for not only driving Wilson's price up, but for making turds like Smith get ridiculous contracts as well.

Mother****erJones 06-25-2015 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11566539)
It's absolutely a horrible argument.

Who wouldn't trade two of the Chiefs worst first round selections for a Russell Wilson?
Mix and match any two of our first rounders the past 15 years I don't care. Point is, first rounders aren't always home runs or even good players.

Hootie 06-25-2015 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11566585)
Big Huard fan, are ya?

:p
I'm surprised you aren't, considering all of his games you scouted as a hobby while he was in college and you were working 80 hours a week

Mother****erJones 06-25-2015 05:37 PM
Ah good god I forgot about Damon Huard lol

notorious 06-25-2015 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11566635)
Ah good god I forgot about Damon Huard lol
Not forgotten. Repressed.

DaneMcCloud 06-25-2015 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11566614)
Mix and match any two of our first rounders the past 15 years I don't care. Point is, first rounders aren't always home runs or even good players.
Of course they're not always home runs or even good players.

But if I'm giving up two number one's and $25 million per year, it's not for a guy that averages 200 yards per game, with a running back that averages 1,500 yards per season playing with a lights out defense.

Luck? Sure. Manning in his prime? Sure. Brady? Absolutely.

Wilson? Nope.

DaneMcCloud 06-25-2015 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11566617)
I'm surprised you aren't, considering all of his games you scouted as a hobby while he was in college and you were working 80 hours a week
All while you were raping chicks and peeing on men

Hootie 06-25-2015 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11566759)
Of course they're not always home runs or even good players.

But if I'm giving up two number one's and $25 million per year, it's not for a guy that averages 200 yards per game, with a running back that averages 1,500 yards per season playing with a lights out defense.

Luck? Sure. Manning in his prime? Sure. Brady? Absolutely.

Wilson? Nope.
Gee, you'd give up 2 firsts for Brady in his prime AND pay him? By golly!!

milkman 06-25-2015 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11566759)
Of course they're not always home runs or even good players.

But if I'm giving up two number one's and $25 million per year, it's not for a guy that averages 200 yards per game, with a running back that averages 1,500 yards per season playing with a lights out defense.

Luck? Sure. Manning in his prime? Sure. Brady? Absolutely.

Wilson? Nope.
Tom Brady, in his first 4 seasons as a starter averaged 225 yards a game, while attempting nearly twice as many passes as Russel Wilson.

The fact is, Wilson is better at this stage in his career than Brady was at the same stage.

He's more efficient, and makes bigger plays.

Hootie 06-25-2015 07:43 PM
I'm convinced some wouldn't have traded for Tom Brady after his 1st SB title even with the benefit of foresight

Apparently 1st round picks produce Aaron Rodgers' like mad

O.city 06-25-2015 07:45 PM
In the end, it's all about value and what you get for said money. Somewhat like a WAR kinda thing.

They paid pennies on the dollar for 100 dollars worth of value. With a new contract, that changes.

Hootie 06-25-2015 07:51 PM
I don't think anyone has ever argued paying a QB less isn't an advantage ... But Russell Wilson's don't grow on trees ... You can't just trade 1 and then go find another 3rd round miracle to lead you to Super Bowls


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