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C3HIEF3S 12-06-2015 10:12 AM

3 years? BB has lost it.

siberian khatru 12-06-2015 10:28 AM

That Madson deal is insane. Baseball has too much money. It's like Jesse Pinkman hosting 24/7 parties at his apartment for a bunch of hangers-on.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-06-2015 10:29 AM

When Madson speaks to Billy Butler for the first time that'll be awkward. "So um...one year too late huh?"

WhawhaWhat 12-06-2015 10:30 AM

Remember when Madson had to sit out for like 2 weeks at the end of August to let his arm recharge. Billy Beane doesn't.

Prison Bitch 12-06-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11930152)
3 years? BB has lost it.

It makes you wonder. He also signed Rich Hill to a 1yr 6M deal after he came back from injury and pitched a good Sept for Boston. Guys like Hill + Madson are guys Beane used to find first. And get cheap production from before letting them get paid by others

Chiefs Pantalones 12-06-2015 11:26 AM

KMo and Volquez will cost us $19m this year.
Billy Butler and Madson will cost $17m this year

suzzer99 12-06-2015 11:34 AM

I'd feel worse about losing him if not for Madson's 2 meltdowns in the playoffs.

Coach 12-06-2015 12:46 PM

Well at least the Royals got good value out of Madson. No way I'd pay that kind of coin.

lewdog 12-06-2015 12:59 PM

The Royals signing of the Madson last year was pure genius with whatever they saw that he had left.

CaliforniaChief 12-06-2015 01:11 PM

Another great example of GMDM letting a certainly declining player cash in for another team. Thanks for a great year, Madson...good story.

Hoch already took that "7th inning role" during the WS. Find another comeback candidate on a one-year deal. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Coach 12-06-2015 02:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals re-signing Chris Young has felt like an inevitability for a while now. <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1">@Joelsherman1</a> says the deal will be two years and $10-11M.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/673606953491271680">December 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City pursuing left-hander Scott Kazmir, who is also on the radar of the L.A. Dodgers.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/673607306001559552">December 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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tk13 12-06-2015 03:09 PM

I appreciate what Madson did for KC. He was huge out of the bullpen. His kryptonite was the Blue Jays, and unfortunately we had to go through them. He pitched fine in the World Series. I can't believe someone gave him three years though. No way they get three quality years out of that contract.

duncan_idaho 12-06-2015 03:39 PM

Like the deal with Young (and imagine they'll be taking out insurance on that contract). $5 million/year is a bargain for a decent back-end starter in this market.

Kazmir interest makes sense to me, too. Good pitcher in that second tier, who isn't going to cost you a draft pick, and shouldn't break the bank. Plus, with KC's bullpen, the Royals should be able to protect his arm a bit. As long as you're not expecting more than 180 IP from Kazmir, it's do-able.

Something similar to what Lackey got from the Cubs makes sense, but over 3-4 years instead of two.

His weak close to the year might also affect Kazmir's price a little bit, in the right direction. He was not good in Houston (ERA over 4, WHIP of almost 1.4, FIP over 5, plummeting K rate), but that park is a really bad fit for a LH pitcher who is a flyball pitcher.

His HR/FB rate was the highest during his time with Houston than it has been at any point in his career, outside of his short stint with the Angels.

KChiefs1 12-06-2015 04:06 PM

I'm hoping the Royals are looking at Leake too.

BigCatDaddy 12-06-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11931222)
Like the deal with Young (and imagine they'll be taking out insurance on that contract). $5 million/year is a bargain for a decent back-end starter in this market.

Kazmir interest makes sense to me, too. Good pitcher in that second tier, who isn't going to cost you a draft pick, and shouldn't break the bank. Plus, with KC's bullpen, the Royals should be able to protect his arm a bit. As long as you're not expecting more than 180 IP from Kazmir, it's do-able.

Something similar to what Lackey got from the Cubs makes sense, but over 3-4 years instead of two.

His weak close to the year might also affect Kazmir's price a little bit, in the right direction. He was not good in Houston (ERA over 4, WHIP of almost 1.4, FIP over 5, plummeting K rate), but that park is a really bad fit for a LH pitcher who is a flyball pitcher.

His HR/FB rate was the highest during his time with Houston than it has been at any point in his career, outside of his short stint with the Angels.

Anyway to maybe start utilizing starting pitchers that pitch about 5 innings without killing your pen over the course of the year? Wasnt Tampa trying something like that?


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