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htismaqe 09-24-2018 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13759423)
Yeah Fuller and Scandrick have been turrribbbbbllleeee!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Before yesterday&#39;s game, Chiefs CB Orlando Scandrick was rated #4 in CB success rate and #3 in yards per target among qualified CB&#39;s, per <a href="https://twitter.com/fboutsiders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fboutsiders</a>.<br><br>Kendall Fuller was #14 in success and #10 in yards per target.<br><br>San Francisco&#39;s WR&#39;s had 92 yards on 14 targets yesterday.</p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1044228583005327360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
We've all said the CB's have been much better than we expected, especially Scandrick.

The issue is at safety. That's been the discussion now in this thread and others for a solid 24 hours.

O.city 09-24-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13759421)
Eric Berry is a brokedick? You don't say? He's only missed a crap ton of games his whole career...and thinking Dan Sorenson is a good starter is funny.

Matter of fact Earl Thomas actually doesn't miss games...amazing.
Hasn't he been hurt the last 2 seasons?

philfree 09-24-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759405)
Absolutely yes.

Replacing Eric Murray with Earl Thomas makes an instant contender to win it all.
It would make us better but I'm not sure it would put us over the top. It'd be worth a 2nd and some change though to give it go.

Mecca 09-24-2018 02:51 PM
Earl Thomas is a CB now I guess, otherwise I'm not sure how that post matters you know cause we are discussing how Murray sucks and Berry never plays.

Mother****erJones 09-24-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13759423)
Yeah Fuller and Scandrick have been turrribbbbbllleeee!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Before yesterday&#39;s game, Chiefs CB Orlando Scandrick was rated #4 in CB success rate and #3 in yards per target among qualified CB&#39;s, per <a href="https://twitter.com/fboutsiders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fboutsiders</a>.<br><br>Kendall Fuller was #14 in success and #10 in yards per target.<br><br>San Francisco&#39;s WR&#39;s had 92 yards on 14 targets yesterday.</p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1044228583005327360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The issue has been communication and the LBers in coverage sucking ass

O.city 09-24-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13759428)
Actually Scandrick hasn't been that bad, Fuller is up and down....but those safeties are horrible hence why we are talking about Earl Thomas.
You said he ignored the secondary though

Mecca 09-24-2018 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13759431)
Hasn't he been hurt the last 2 seasons?
He's missed 7 games his whole career..broke his leg 2 years ago and missed 2 last year.

Was 16 every year before that, I'll take that over ACL and achilles.

Mecca 09-24-2018 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13759436)
You said he ignored the secondary though
Scandrick got signed 2 weeks before the season started lets not act like he didn't ignore it.

RunKC 09-24-2018 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759420)
They deserve at least partial blame for counting on people that were hurt in the first place.
This is the shit I’m talking about man. Veach had no first rd pick. Even with a first rd pick, you aren’t fixing every problem on this defense.

This defense was bad basically everywhere last year. Every single level thanks to Dorsey.

This same shit will be said if Earl Thomas is traded for.

“But we don’t have a pass rush and our all pro safeties can’t cover forever!”

Let’s just be realistic here

O.city 09-24-2018 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13759440)
He's missed 7 games his whole career..broke his leg 2 years ago and missed 2 last year.

Was 16 every year before that, I'll take that over ACL and achilles.
So he was healthy when he was young, now as he's getting older he's getting injured more.

srvy 09-24-2018 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13759356)
You sure???!?!?!
Wrong Hunt family

Eleazar 09-24-2018 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13759403)
What does any of that have to do with this year?

At this rate, they are well on their way to wasting one of the best years by a QB in the history of football.

Replacing Veach, drafting help, all of that crap doesn't help them now. And they should be doing EVERYTHING it takes to help them now.
We've had two of the best games by a QB in the history of football, that's true. And he had a very good game on Sunday too.

Why are we not expecting that he will be great for his whole career? He continues to improve even now. Why do we expect Mahomes to turn into a pumpkin after this season?

tatorhog 09-24-2018 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13759434)
The issue has been communication and the LBers in coverage sucking ass
Wasn't O'Daniel drafted to be that tweener guy to take some of the coverage duties off the ILBer's?

Surely he would offer some kind of flexibility on known passing downs...or maybe he just is that bad. I dunno.

jaa1025 09-24-2018 02:59 PM
I'm for trading for Thomas because Safeties probably age the best on the defense--generally. He could play 6 more years at a high level.

I bet a 2nd and 4th get it done with a sign and trade. It will likely cost an average of 10 or 11 per year. Sign him to a 5-6 year deal with that average and 30 mil guaranteed.

When Berry gets healthy, you have one of the best safety duo in history and Sutton can finally be more aggressive with pass rush.

We have an extra 2nd that will likely be in the back end of the 2nd round. Makes too much sense to me.

O.city 09-24-2018 03:00 PM
If you make this move, Berry gets healthy and O'daniel actually is worth a shit, the middle of the D is a lot different in a month.


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