Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14222450)

5 Yrs, 105M with a potential opt-out at year 3.

Reports have been that this has no impact on Chris Jones and the Chiefs and his agents are still working a contract that will pay him $20M annually.

And Mahomes? LMAO NOTHING is getting in the way of a Mahomes contract. They'll cut this whole ****ing roster before they let him walk, so he's not even a part of the "What-if" equation.

Reek's off field drama is reason enough to let him play it out, then tag him next O/S and work on his contract then. At that point, they can give him Watkins' money.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14222303)

KC gives up: 640 for their first, and the 2020 swap is the equivalent of gaining about 60 points due to the devaluation of it being next year. Them swapping thirds this year is another 38 points.

So, the Chiefs net draft value is -540, which means the Chiefs traded:

Dee Ford
#36 pick in the draft

For

Frank Clark + his extension.

And this is at a team when NFL teams are valuing DBs more than edge rushers precisely because the edge rushers are only on the field 60-65% of the time. Had they made this trade for Jalen Ramsey, it makes a hell of a lot more sense. In the modern league, smart teams are running out a shitload of decent-but-not-great pass rushers and letting other teams pay out the ass for them. Look at what the Patriots do with their rushers and look who they pay.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14222512)

Eh. They need a corner that has speed plus and can cover without help. They don't have that right now.

They're going to be fielding 2 linebackers tops a lot of the time and one of the slots is already penciled in. I don't get the mega concern.

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14222505)

yeah, definitely. and i think first and second round picks would probably help in such endeavors huh.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14222553)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> move...<br><br>&quot;Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahomes.&quot;</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14222534)

yeah. could have had 6 combining both years, but 4 is still nice for sure.

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14222558)

So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14222558)

So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14222550)

NE will go 2 TE sets and run the football. They did it a lot in both games last year.

We need a linebacker who can thump Michel and White in the A-gap. Hitchens and Ragland were awful last year.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14222553)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke to one general manager who had this to say about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> move...<br><br>&quot;Comparing Dee Ford to Frank Clark is like comparing Joe Flacco to Patrick Mahomes.&quot;</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1120772046986911744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14222558)

So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14222558)

So... We essentially traded Dee Ford, AND a first round pick for a LESSER player. Veach is a ****ing moron.