Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11637187)

Mostly some of the board Cardinals fans. They seem to pop up out of nowhere and start shit on their high horse. Their baseball team means a lot to them and we're all dumb asses.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637145)

Donaldson was as pissed at the umpire as he was anyone else - he got hit (clearly intentionally) and then after warnings were issued a teammate got hit again and he got buzzed twice with no response from the ump. That's going to frustrate the guy.

Royals fans at the beginning of the year (and you just now) use cumulative HBP figures as justification for your ire and yet you ignore the fact that in game Donaldson had been beaned and then buzzed twice. That's going to piss you off - period. You can't very well say "well Gordo got hit 3 times last month so he's right to be angry" and then ignore Donaldson's frustration.

I understand why Donaldson would be pissed just as I understand why the Royals would be nonplussed. It's just friggen absurd that Royals fans that have been crying all season about being targeted are now going to tell anybody to brush it off.

The Royals and their fans damn sure haven't shown a willingness to do so.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637145)

Donaldson was as pissed at the umpire as he was anyone else - he got hit (clearly intentionally) and then after warnings were issued a teammate got hit again and he got buzzed twice with no response from the ump. That's going to frustrate the guy.

Royals fans at the beginning of the year (and you just now) use cumulative HBP figures as justification for your ire and yet you ignore the fact that in game Donaldson had been beaned and then buzzed twice. That's going to piss you off - period. You can't very well say "well Gordo got hit 3 times last month so he's right to be angry" and then ignore Donaldson's frustration.

I understand why Donaldson would be pissed just as I understand why the Royals would be nonplussed. It's just friggen absurd that Royals fans that have been crying all season about being targeted are now going to tell anybody to brush it off.

The Royals and their fans damn sure haven't shown a willingness to do so.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637101)

This is the shit the Royals have been involved in ALL SEASON...

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11637192)

He might have been pissed about the ump letting him get "buzzed," but it's not realistic to expect an umpire to eject a guy for throwing a changeup that rides up and in (because that clearly is a mistake pitch that got away).

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11637221)

I was wondering when DJ's ass would show up and make an ass like Hamas did.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11637222)

There's no double standard. They hit Moose the day before and knocked him out of Sunday's game. The Cardinals would've done the same thing. In hindsight the stealing signs issue might have taken it over the top, but a lot of teams would've done it just because one of their own got taken out.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637216)

Let's remember though - that's the point of a changeup. When Donaldson spun out of the box and looked at Escobar, he didn't know it was a changeup - it's disguised as a fastball; that's the point. And he didn't charge the guy, he spun out angry and pretty quickly recovered. A bat flip? Christ, you're calling out a dude for flipping his bat? He was still pissed and he still wouldn't have known it was a changeup. Again, right in that moment, he things Volquez buzzed the tower.



No it does not, but it didn't make sense for Cain to get hit by a slider in the early innings of a tie game but Cain and his teammates lost their shit and Royals fans were right there ready to back him. And again, from Donaldson's perspective, he's standing in the on deck circle when the new face of the franchise got hit in the hand; the kind of thing that can end a season. Of course he's going to be riled up especially with the backdrop of his last AB. Then when he gets another ball by his chin he turned and barked at the umpire. WTF is the problem with that?



Intentional or not - run or not - Royals fans lose their mind after their guy gets hit every time and yet they don't extend that same thought to Donaldson who had pretty much had his fill of that shit on that day - and you would to.

Like I said at the very beginning - I can absolutely see why the Royals would be nonplussed; from there perspective nothing untoward happened. My issue is with the idea that Donaldson was completely unjustified in his frustration - oh bullshit. That said - let's also be very clear here - 'nonplussed' isn't exactly what happened there either. Volquez spent the whole day looking for a fight (both times walking towards the batter after the HBP and then the walk) and the Royals had their whole team out of that dugout before anything actually started...evidently just in case. Volquez did a lot to incite that crap and as soon as guy were on the field, he and Cain were looking to elevate things....again.

It's the double standard that is laughable here.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11637242)

Things had been quiet for a few months, prior to this series...

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11637222)

There's no double standard. They hit Moose the day before and knocked him out of Sunday's game. The Cardinals would've done the same thing. In hindsight the stealing signs issue might have taken it over the top, but a lot of teams would've done it just because one of their own got taken out.