Yeah, that fits what I've been thinking as well.

Like I said yesterday, I see about 28 guys that I like as 1st rounders for the Chiefs specifically and another 3-4 that I'd have put a 1st round grade on, just not for KC for various reasons.

So yeah, 30-32 1st rounders feels about right.

As the drafts gotten closer I've found myself more and more surprised by the depth of the 1st round and more and more comfortable with our draft position.

Josh Jones gonna go in the first

Tackle class has been shit mostly for awhile...think teams are gonna ****in go ham over them this year.

Better 12 than 29.

It'll be a bit like the year Derwin James went friggen 17. I was just watching him sit there thinking "man I'd love to have that guy" but since we'd dealt our 1st for Mahomes, there was no reasonable way to get in range of him.

Had he somehow slid into the mid-late 20s and we hadn't moved mountains to go get him, I'd have been frustrated.

Anytime I think "man, X player just won't be there for us, he's too good and teams are too smart" I have to remind myself that Derwin James went 17. WTF? That isn't even a 'Dontari Poe outplaying his expectations' thing - James was OBVIOUSLY going to be a great player.

How the hell did he fall that far?

Though in fairness - that was a pretty damn good draft.

I don't understand this post because it doesn't make any sense to me.

Undrafted Free Agents aren't going to sign with the Chiefs in the hope of making the 55, then go through at least one more TC in which the team has brought in more competition, and in the Chiefs case, as many as 9 drafted players in 2021, for a shot at a roster spot in 2022.


I competely disagree with this notion as well. The Chiefs have signed multiple UDFA's in the past few seasons that have had opportunity to impress offensively - who's taken advantage of that gift?

Deiter and Kemp have had opportunities and they've done nothing to date. Jody Fortson was supposed to be a great signing and the dude never was never added to the 53 last year.

Yeah, I don't buy that, at all, in terms of UDFA's because history shows us that most of those guys don't end up on the Practice Squad, let alone, on the 53.

LB and CB were just the "few positions" that I indicated wouldn't see as much competition but I still believe the chance any of them stick with this 55 man roster are slim.

The chance that any UDFA in 2020 sticks with the Chiefs is incredibly low as compared at least 25 other NFL teams. Plus, you're now forced to overpay a UDFA because you want him, leaving a very slim chance he makes it through waivers and ends up on the practice squad.

Last year, people were raving about Cody Thompson, who was signed by Seattle and Gary Johnson, who didn't even make it to camp. Smart agents will steer their best clients away from the Chiefs.

Baun makes a ton of sense for Baltimore with the scheme they run and where they are weak mixed with the fact that they're having contract issues with Judon.

Depends on the draft class. This class is loaded with talent. The class I think that compares to this one the most is 2016. Loaded positional group (that year it was DL) and a good class on top of that.

The first 7 picks of the 2nd round were:

Emmanuel Ogbah
Kevin Dodd
Jaylon Smith
Myles Jack
Hunter Henry
Chris Jones
Xavien Howard

One could argue that Ogbah was never used properly in the hell hole known as Cleveland and his true talent shown through on a competent staff like ours last year.

That’s a pretty goddamn good group to trade back for, no? What I’m saying is that this draft class is better.

There’s very good talent on top of WR and with 6-7 projected OT’s being taken in the first on top of the strong WR class, that’s gonna push a ton of players down the board.

Especially if you buy into Ezra Cleveland being the Browns guy...

Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith were the 2 guys I wanted from that, when Jack went ahead of us I was annoyed.

False.

Simmons doesn't really have a position, so while some teams see him at CB, others may see him at LB. If he's stuck at the CB position, most teams may choose not to even challenge him, which erases any late night game planning against him. If he's at LB, teams will scheme around him.

Considering he's most likely a Top 10 selection, he'll go to a bad team and in some cases, a bad team that has a history of GM and coaching turnover, so there's a good chance he ends up in multiple defensive alignments and positions during the course of his rookie contract. There is absolutely no guarantee that he'll even be used in a way that will maximize his talents because DC's are often stubborn or just plain dumb.

Chase Young will have no such issue. It appears he'll land in DC, with an excellent defensive HC in Ron Rivera and a good defensive coordinator in Jack Del Rio, along with a studly defensive line that may rival the 2019 49er's starters in terms of talent.

Young is the winner here, hands down.

Simmons real talent is he is one of the very few players athletic enough to take way TEs in todays game. That is a great piece for a defense, if it's a shitty defense it's eh.

Sure but OC's aren't going to stress out over Simmons as a 3rd down linebacker covering TE's like they will with Chase Young coming for their QB each and every down.

Here's a bit of info from Albert Breer's column this morning regarding the Chiefs:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/21/nf...ert-ruggs-lamb

32. Kansas City: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

A nice, safe pick. Despite some missteps early in his college career, Fulton grew up quickly and should be a solid starter at the NFL level. He was tested plenty last year playing opposite a true freshman some at LSU felt was the best player on their defense (Derek Stingley Jr.), and held up fine. So he should be ready to go.

I have, by the way, heard the Chiefs like D’Andre Swift. But it’s hard to see, given Andy Reid’s track record (he’s spent no first-rounders, and just one second-rounder, on a running back in 21 drafts). And if someone wants to come fishing for Jordan Love here, I’d bet Brett Veach would be all ears.

I can see Veach trading this pick

The problem I see there is if Love makes it outside the top 20 (I don’t think he will), it’s highly doubtful a team like the Seahawks or 49ers doesn’t do the same thing.

I just find it hard to believe Love makes it to 32.

Fulton is a fine player, reminds me a lot of Tre'Davious White, Swift though does make a ton of sense he is a perfect fit here.