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lewdog 01-02-2017 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12657162)
All the existing switch does is interrupt the hot (black) wire on the way to the light. The timer is an actual electrical component so it requires a hot and common wire to operate.

So I need to take the plate off and pull it out to see how many wires I have back there?

mdstu 01-02-2017 08:19 PM

Translation:

Look at the back of the existing switch.

If there two black wires and two white wires.
Replace it with the new switch and wire it exactly the same as the old switch.

If there are only two black wires, it probably won't work.

lewdog 01-02-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 12657024)
and we have the same textured walls, I'm looking to repaint before long but we can't seem to find colors we like, everything is a cream color now.

This green color was here in the main area but we painted a bathroom and 2 bedrooms before we moved into this house.

Painting I can do!

Bugeater 01-02-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12657166)
So I need to take the plate off and pull it out to see how many wires I have back there?

You can, but I doubt that there's a common wire lurking back there.

lewdog 01-02-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12657180)
You can, but I doubt that there's a common wire lurking back there.

Huh. And if I don't have that I can't do this?

My neighbor says he has his garage lights outside on a timer switch....We have the almost exact same house too.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12657156)
Wanna come work on my pivot? It's only 480 volts :D

Yeah but that's only if you grab two legs at the same time ,I'm not stepud.

Bugeater 01-02-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12657188)
Huh. And if I don't have that I can't do this?

My neighbor says he has his garage lights outside on a timer switch....We have the almost exact same house too.

If it's not there you'd have to run one from the electrical panel to it, so you can, but it won't be simple. Is your neighbor is using the same switch in the same location?

lewdog 01-02-2017 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BeaverEater (Post 12657210)
If it's not there you'd have to run one from the electrical panel to it, so you can, but it won't be simple. Is your neighbor is using the same switch in the same location?

I think so. Think it's exact same switch but his house came with it installed.

House is built in 2003 if that matters here. I took face plate off and there's definitely more than 2 wires going to each switch. I can see white and black wires. Tons of wires back there from what I can see without taking the switch out.

mdstu 01-02-2017 08:34 PM

You need a common(white) wire to make the switch work.
To power the electronics of the switch itself.

mdstu 01-02-2017 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12657219)
I think so. Think it's exact same switch but his house came with it installed.

House is built in 2003 if that matters here. I took face plate off and there's definitely more than 2 wires going to each switch. I can see white and black wires. Tons of wires back there from what I can see without taking the switch out.

You should be fine then.

mdstu 01-02-2017 08:38 PM

Make sure you flip the breaker to this circuit before putting screwdriver to terminal.
Test with a meter. When in doubt kill the main to the whole house and make your wife hold a flashlight for you.

lewdog 01-02-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 12657232)
Make sure you flip the breaker to this circuit before putting screwdriver to terminal.
Test with a meter. When in doubt kill the main to the whole house and make your wife hold a flashlight for you.

Yea, I might work on this some other day. I got a far as taking the plate off to look but it's night here and I don't want to go any farther.

I think I'll order the switch. Pretty sure it will work without taking the whole thing out right now.

displacedinMN 01-02-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 12657232)
Make sure you flip the breaker to this circuit before putting screwdriver to terminal.
Test with a meter. When in doubt kill the main to the whole house and make your wife hold a flashlight for you.

Don't flip the breaker. Have the wife use the screwdriver on the wires. Take a shot and hold the flashlight.

lewdog 01-02-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 12657243)
Don't flip the breaker. Have the wife use the screwdriver on the wires. Take a shot and hold the flashlight.

That's mean!


Switch ordered. Should arrive Wednesday. Thanks. This could be life changing.

ghak99 01-03-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12657264)
That's mean!


Switch ordered. Should arrive Wednesday. Thanks. This could be life changing.

FYI... Injury from shock often comes from the reaction, not the actual shock.

When you elbow your flashlight holder in the face because you poked the wrong wire. Expect to get hit with that flashlight. It won't hurt bad enough to make you forget about being shocked, but it damn sure won't feel good.


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