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JF08 08-13-2013 10:43 AM

So the guy goes 7/8 and all you guys can talk about is the one incomplete pass? No wonder the Chiefs have sucked for so long - the fan base is riddled with negative nancy's! You guys are trolls.

Kaepernick 08-13-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9879919)
With a guy in his face, he'd have to put it up a little which gives the safety on top time to make a play. He probably could have put it up near the sideline and short so that the WR is the only with a chance at the ball..but yeah, the WR gonna take a hit.


I've seen Alex make throws on the run...he's able...but I'm sure clay is going to post that gif of the int to gore in 3 2 1...

The gif of Alex not seeing a wide-open Randy Moss run the entire width of the end zone is probably more germaine to this post.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/15..._Clips__5_.jpg

Left as a link because I can't find a smaller pic.

KC native 08-13-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9879853)
Let the Alexcuses flow...

ROFL

mdchiefsfan 08-13-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9881084)
Line-of-sight? The devil you say. Alex has line-of-sight between 2 spread defenders when the WR is circled in yellow. He HAS line-of-sight. WFT? 5'-10" Russell Wilson would have had line-of-sight on that pass, AND COMPLETED IT.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex.gif

Somebody else made the Alexcuse that a DB is in the right corner. Yes, with the WR in the middle of the field wide open and half the field to work with. That is an EASY completion for most QBs. EASY.

Alex often can't see or is unwilling to pull the trigger down field. I've seen this too many times, too many years to buy your Alexcuses. Don't mind me. I'll let you wait until mid-season when you've also seen it too many times and are pulling your hair out in frustration. You are gonna learn this from first hand experience and it won't take many games to see it.

I call bullshit. There is no way a pass that is across his body while running the opposite direction is an easy pass for any quarterback. Not to mention the defender in his face that could easily tip it.

I will generally call a spade a spade, but I think it was the right decision to take it out of bounds.

9er guy 08-13-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08 (Post 9881089)
So the guy goes 7/8 and all you guys can talk about is the one incomplete pass? No wonder the Chiefs have sucked for so long - the fan base is riddled with negative nancy's! You guys are trolls.

But this will be what you're going to get with him.

You're going to get very efficient play in terms of completions and Rating.

I think what was missing for me(when he was in SF) were impact plays from the QB position. Big plays, chunk yardage, things like that.

His completion pct will be high, that just how he plays. But I wonder if he'll be able to make the more difficult throws that he's struggled with throughout his career.

jd1020 08-13-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881109)
I call bullshit. There is no way a pass that is across his body while running the opposite direction is an easy pass for any quarterback. Not to mention the defender in his face that could easily tip it.

I will generally call a spade a spade, but I think it was the right decision to take it out of bounds.

Are you kidding me? He's got 20+ yards of green grass ahead of McCluster to put the ball. If he can't make that throw... :banghead:

9er guy 08-13-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881109)
I will generally call a spade a spade, but I think it was the right decision to take it out of bounds.

It definitely wasn't a bad decision. But do you play it that safe in a pre-season game? I'd to like to see him at least try to make the throw.

You have nothing to lose.

Again, these are things that are indicative of his play style.

If he's not making that throw in August, I don't see him making it in December.

Kaepernick 08-13-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB) (Post 9880480)
LMAO

Classic GoChiefs hating here.

That DB was half a ****ing football field away and not even thinking about a pick.

People are dreaming if they think the DB had a chance at that ball, unless Alex held it too long, which would be entirely possible.

Some people are just not going to believe Alex's unwillingness to make throws until they see it first hand. This is a classic example of it.

9er guy 08-13-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9881127)
Some people are just not going to believe Alex's unwillingness to make throws until they see it first hand. This is a classic example of it.

Oh man. They haven't seen anything yet. Wait until there's a guy open 40 yards downfield and Smitty checks it down for a two-yard gain on 3rd and 5.

Kaepernick 08-13-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 9881069)
Alex missed the Baldwin hotread too.

I can't tell you if Alex doesn't see it, or is just unwilling to throw the ball - but this is a very real flaw in Alex's play. The thing is, Alex is athletic enough to make the throw. It is not as if he CAN'T throw it. He just WON'T throw it.

Kaepernick 08-13-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9881087)
At this point in his career. His skill set is what it is.

He's going to be good at the stuff he's good at and bad at the stuff he's bad at.

I don't think pre-season is the only time you're going to see some of those throws. You guys will be debating ALL SEASON about this guy.

That is a FACT. Alex gives you so much hope, you constantly think he is on the verge of turning the corner to becoming a top QB. Then he regresses. If you see that cycle enough times, you realize he has at his ceiling and quit hoping to see improvement.

Alex is a solid mid-tier QB, a 12-20 ranked QB and one who can certainly manage a top 10 team to a super bowl win. The gif is a perfect illustration of a mental weakness that, among others, will keep Alex ever from rising up to the top tiers. It is not as if he doesn't have the intelligence or athleticism to do so.

JF08 08-13-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9881112)
But this will be what you're going to get with him.

You're going to get very efficient play in terms of completions and Rating.

I think what was missing for me(when he was in SF) were impact plays from the QB position. Big plays, chunk yardage, things like that.

His completion pct will be high, that just how he plays. But I wonder if he'll be able to make the more difficult throws that he's struggled with throughout his career.

I get what you're saying, I'm a Niners fan too. But I came to respect Alex for his perseverance through all the bullshit that the organization put him and the rest of the team through. He never gave up, even when he should have.

Some QB's are physically gifted enough to come up with those plays on their own (like Kaep). Some QB's need a good system around them to succeed - their chunk plays come from repetition, study, and consistency. Over time, those plays become more common - not because they suddenly got a stronger arm, but because the system around them improved over time. Alex fits into the latter category.

There is a reason he was the #1 pick, and it wasn't because of his rocket arm and huge stature. He is a genius when it comes to football. Yes, he is conservative, but as he gained confidence the past season and a half, his yards per completion went up, and so did his completion percentage. Interceptions went down, and the wins starting coming. What he needs is time to develop with the same system, same team, so that he can gradually take more chances. Simply chucking the ball around to "find out" what he's capable of is ludicrous. This isn't Saturday flag football at the beach.

jd1020 08-13-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9881132)
Oh man. They haven't seen anything yet. Wait until there's a guy open 40 yards downfield and Smitty checks it down for a two-yard gain on 3rd and 5.

Ummm, we are kind of used to that level of ineptitude.

KC native 08-13-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9881112)
But this will be what you're going to get with him.

You're going to get very efficient play in terms of completions and Rating.

I think what was missing for me(when he was in SF) were impact plays from the QB position. Big plays, chunk yardage, things like that.

His completion pct will be high, that just how he plays. But I wonder if he'll be able to make the more difficult throws that he's struggled with throughout his career.

Hey sounds like a qb we just got rid of.

mdchiefsfan 08-13-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9881121)
Are you kidding me? He's got 20+ yards of green grass ahead of McCluster to put the ball. If he can't make that throw... :banghead:

I get how much space was in front McCluster, that's not what I am talking about. The issue is the defender in front of him. He has no time to plant and throw. He would have to jump and throw to get it over the defender.


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