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Teicher:Prodded by Andy Reid, Chiefs QB Alex Smith learning to be more aggressive (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=273618)

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780224)

You took a position that Alex Smith is better than the QB he actually is. You scoff at the evidence I present, because you are a homer and want to believe in this QB. No other reason to treat these facts with such disdain.

Oh, give me a break.

The mere fact that he's had a winning record the past two seasons and led the NFL in QB rating contradicts all of your "facts", which of course, you've hand-picked.

He's not Matt Cassel, yet you continually refer to him as if he IS Matt Cassel.

You make claims such as his presence won't improve the defense over last year, that he can't throw the ball downfield, etc. and so on, yet it's all untrue.

False narrative.

Winning seasons:

Matt Cassel - 2
Alex Smith - 1.5

Would you like to know more?

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he can't throw the ball downfield

He can't. He's been consistently terrible at it over the course of his career.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780239)

Winning seasons:

Matt Cassel - 2
Alex Smith - 1.5

Would you like to know more?

He can't. He's been consistently terrible at it over the course of his career.

Unbelievable.

I know, I can't believe Matt Cassel has had more winning seasons!

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780246)

I know, I can't believe Matt Cassel has had more winning seasons!

No, that you would include his stats from previous seasons.

You know, because THAT'S the guy Dorsey and Reid traded for in February.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9779979)

Just because Alex Smith didn't throw downfield very much doesn't mean he sucks at it.

Yep!

Did anyone ever really read this long article?

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/5...verages-part-3
Alex Smith - The Long Ball (Trends and Averages: Part 3)

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So it seems pretty settled, he didn’t throw the long ball much by anyone’s standard. But, how did he do (comparatively) when he did throw it?

Alex Smith is right there at the top in all six charts. (in extensive comparison to others like Flacco, Rodgers, Brady, and even Cassell for fun)

He had to "trend" his way to the top in his short game, but...
He has always been near the top in his throws over 20 yards (up there with Rodgers). Hmmm....

TD% doesn’t seem to be driven by "Arm Strength" but by talent. Rodgers and Brady lead in both categories. This shoots some holes in the theory that "weak armed" QBs have a harder time with late game drives or needed big plays.

Alex is right in the middle (above Cassel and Flacco) in both the short and long throws, but below our elites.

Smith is right at Flacco level in the LOS and 11-20 range.
Smith has "trended" to the upper level in his 1-10 yard throws
Smith is second behind Rodgers in 30-40 yard throws
Smith is second behind Flacco is over 40 yard throws
Aaron Rodgers is the frickin’ man. Period. We should get that guy.
So Smith completed the ball, but did he move the ball down the field?

Smith is again in the top half
Smith is right near Flacco in the short game and AAYPA, but well above him in the +20 yard range.
This stat - Like TD% - seems to be driven more by talent than arm strength
So, in terms of actually throwing the long ball, completing his throws, scoring TDs, and affecting the team by moving the ball, Alex Smith is all right in the long game. He is not elite, but these charts show that his long game actually appears more efficient than his short game, which has really improved over the years. Arm talent certainly does matter, but not quite as much as I would have thought before I did this analysis.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9780230)

Alrighty, but on one condition. Alex Smith gets hurt and all bets are off.

Don't worry. Clay will be gone when they win their 9th game. :)

LMAO

Clay is awesome at ****ing his own argument he has tried this shit before.

Only that jacking off idiot could claim having the highest yards per pass attempt is a bad thing. LMAO

****ing clueless idiot. LMAO

I posted this a few months ago, but it BEGS to get repeated...

If you take Alex Smiths average per attempt and touchdowns per attempt for 2012 and multiply them by the amount of attempts Eagles quarterbacks had last year...here's what you get:

4989 yards
37 tds

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9780271)

I never claimed it was a bad thing.

All I claimed was - and this is accurate - is that it doesn't mean what people think it means.

He doesn't throw the ball down the field. His YPA is deceptive.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9780250)

No, that you would include his stats from previous seasons.

You know, because THAT'S the guy Dorsey and Reid traded for in February.

:rolleyes:

I only included his stats from 2011 and 2012.

In those seasons -

shitty on third down

doesn't throw down the field

sacked more than anyone else in the NFL

All that for 2 2nds!

3rd down conversions fall on the TEAM and playcalling, yeah?

Is it the QB's fault if it is 3rd and 15 and the playcall is a designed clear-out that is meant to get YAC that just doesn't happen? Harbaugh and Roman called lots of those plays... because they figured at best, convert... at worst, better field position to punt. Is that type of failed conversion the QB's fault?

How about a dropped pass in and out the hands of a receiver on 3rd down?
How about a receiver that runs his route a yard shy?
How about a RB that runs into a brick wall and can't get his 2 yards needed?
How about a receiver that runs the wrong route or can't beat a jam?
How about OL pass pro failures?

All of these things factor in..

It's really a shame that your mind is so incredibly poisoned against Smith. It will leave with only two avenues. (1) Smith plays well and you will hate him for it. (2) Smith plays poorly and your team sucks.

Either way, you lose. Your level of hate for this guy is epic. As a supposed Chiefs fan, you should really be ashamed of yourself. You sound like a butthurt loser throwing a fit because KC didn't follow your gameplan... and DaneMcC and others have helped to make you look utterly pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9780363)

I only included his stats from 2011 and 2012.

In those seasons -

shitty on third down

doesn't throw down the field

sacked more than anyone else in the NFL

All that for 2 2nds!

:facepalm:

I know, right?

What's not to like?

At his PEAK...this guy was a check down artist that got sacked a shit ton.

You could also say he was sacked a lot because his OL as a whole sucked ass for most of his career and Harbaugh purposely told him to take sacks.