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BigCatDaddy 01-10-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10359233)
Sure.

I used to fully believe in the whole momentum argument and there's things there that are unquantifiable ie emotions or whatever.

But if all it took was one play from the colts (the fumble) to completely change the course of the game, mentally, we need to cut every player on our roster.

"I'm gonna play harder and with more emotion" doesn't automatically mean I'm going to beat the guy across from me.

So what is your explanation for home field advantages in the NFL? Familarity with the playing surface?

HemiEd 01-10-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10359201)
There's no such thing as "momentum" in a football game. One team starts making more good plays and another team makes bad plays. There's no magical momentum.

Just may be in the top 10 dumbest statements I have read on this place in just over 9 years here.

Sandy Vagina 01-10-2014 11:14 AM

Bottom line of this specific issue is this: Though the Smith fumble and subsequent TD score gave Indy some momentum back, Luck's following INT and our offense scoring a FG nipped that momentum. This excuse (or possible excuse) of "Smith gave Indy all the momentum and that's why we lost!" is clear horseshit.

... and now, people will say that they were not saying that at all... but of course, the passive suggestion exists.

Mav 01-10-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10359210)
see the bold pisses me off.


im SURE YOU and all the rest of the niners fans are over OUR team losing in the playoffs AGAIN.

its easy when you are fans of whatever team is winning.


its not easy for people who have loved this team their whole life.

**** all you guys.

seriously

Why would that piss you off? I said I was over it.

Yeah, whatever team is winning. That's why I spent sunday with my wife rooting for the 49ers to lose. Got rid of all of my 49er gear. Yes, so yes, I came here in the offseason, you know, before Alex Smith was ever even traded for, just when it was rumored, stuck with this team all year, and now, JUST NOW, im a fan of a winning team.

Okay cool.

Um, how do you explain my Cleveland Browns infatuation then?

Did they win something that I WAS unaware of? Except they have proven to be the worst franchise in all of sports.

Its okay that YOU aren't over it.

I didn't say, YOU had to be.

I said I am over it.

It was a lot easier for me to get over it, when I realized just how many people the Chiefs lost in that game. Of course the way they lost sucked. But in All honesty, is anyone really surprised?

You lose three pro bowlers, your back up rb, your second receiver, your number one overall pick is too hurt to play, and not like it would of mattered if he did.

That's what helped me.

Come on Jason. You know I meant no disrespect, and for you to claim that anyone who came here because of winning, that's ABSURD.

Jakemall 01-10-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10359207)
That is complete bullshit. Emotions are quite real and how emotions effect performance is quite real.

I agree. Emotions play a huge role..especially on defenses, imo. With that said, one big play can send the balance back and forth very quickly. So it wasn't just one big play that changed the swing of the game...it was a lucky play here, a big break there, a good play there...things added up. Not to mention all the Chief players going down like flies.

temper11 01-10-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10359150)
I keep forgetting the he gets credit for all of the positives (like the first several games when the D totally carried the O) but none of the negatives, I forgot.

So you think that the 6th regular season loss should be mentioned in a conversation about Smith's record this year when he didn't even play in the game? Why would you do that?

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 10359150)
Just like the playoff game, he had 4 tds, 370+ yards, and no interceptions! Of course we don't mention that he was the recipient of the 4 turnovers the D created, and Smith had a fumble that was a killer.

Got it.

Who doesn't mention it? People mention it all the time. What bearing does it have on the conversation of Smith's play? Guy played great. Period. People want to rip him for the second half - ok. I still think he played great. What throws did he miss? The one to Gray? Yeah, I guess, even though Cyrus himself said he slowed down during the route because he couldn't find the ball. Is Smith supposed to somehow slow down the ball - in flight?

The grounding penalty only cost the team an extra 2 yards. It was a designed screen and when Albert misses the cut block the defender is standing directly in the throwing lane for the only receiver that is looking for the ball - everyone else is blocking. I can't put that on Smith. What should he have done? Eat the ball - ok, that would have saved 2 yards, but they damn near didn't call the penalty, so it nearly saved 8.

The fumble - I don't know a QB that wouldn't have fumbled the ball on that play. The guy is known for doing that to QB's all year, but your right, that is on Smith.

These are the plays people keep bringing up over and over... what else, cause if this is it, there's not much here at all to complain about. The playbook in the second half went conservative because it was basically, a just don't screw this thing up half - not to mention they are playing with their 3rd string RB and 3string WR.

I'm not ignoring anything. Bring up any play you want, and we can look at it. You guys just keep bringing up the same 3 plays.

O.city 01-10-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10359239)
So what is your explanation for home field advantages in the NFL? Familarity with the playing surface?

What does momentum have todo with homefield advantage?

SAUTO 01-10-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10359249)
Why would that piss you off? I said I was over it.

Yeah, whatever team is winning. That's why I spent sunday with my wife rooting for the 49ers to lose. Got rid of all of my 49er gear. Yes, so yes, I came here in the offseason, you know, before Alex Smith was ever even traded for, just when it was rumored, stuck with this team all year, and now, JUST NOW, im a fan of a winning team.

Okay cool.

Um, how do you explain my Cleveland Browns infatuation then?

Did they win something that I WAS unaware of? Except they have proven to be the worst franchise in all of sports.

Its okay that YOU aren't over it.

I didn't say, YOU had to be.

I said I am over it.

It was a lot easier for me to get over it, when I realized just how many people the Chiefs lost in that game. Of course the way they lost sucked. But in All honesty, is anyone really surprised?

You lose three pro bowlers, your back up rb, your second receiver, your number one overall pick is too hurt to play, and not like it would of mattered if he did.

That's what helped me.

Come on Jason. You know I meant no disrespect, and for you to claim that anyone who came here because of winning, that's ABSURD.

no. one I didn't claim anyone came here for winning.

thye came here because of smith, but they can go back to a team that has been consistently winning for years and drown their sorrows over the chiefs that none of them gave a **** about in the first place.

Jakemall 01-10-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10359239)
So what is your explanation for home field advantages in the NFL? Familarity with the playing surface?

Noise maybe?

SAUTO 01-10-2014 11:47 AM

and like I said its easy to get over something you have only had a interest in for a little while.

not so easy when its been there through your whole life.

it would be like the guy who started dating your mom a week prior to her death.

im sure in a month he would have forgotten it, but would you?

BigCatDaddy 01-10-2014 11:51 AM

Sort of. The noise provides energy to the team after making good plays. It's an emotional thing that makes it easier to run with momentum.

There is a reason you often here coaches and players about keeping crowds out of the game or getting them involved. If inflating to the home team and deflating to the visiting team once you get them involved and seize momentum of the game.

ptlyon 01-10-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10359301)
Noise maybe?

Knowing where the bathrooms are

ptlyon 01-10-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 10359305)
and like I said its easy to get over something you have only had a interest in for a little while.

not so easy when its been there through your whole life.

it would be like the guy who started dating your mom a week prior to her death.

im sure in a month he would have forgotten it, but would you?

If she gave really good hummers, I'd still send you xmas cards

Jakemall 01-10-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 10359329)
If she gave really good hummers, I'd still send you xmas cards

On a roll...

Old Dog 01-10-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10359243)
Bottom line of this specific issue is this: Though the Smith fumble and subsequent TD score gave Indy some momentum back, Luck's following INT and our offense scoring a FG nipped that momentum. This excuse (or possible excuse) of "Smith gave Indy all the momentum and that's why we lost!" is clear horseshit.

... and now, people will say that they were not saying that at all... but of course, the passive suggestion exists.

Until you realize that we got the ball in that inside their 30 (unless I'm remembering incorrectly). For all intents and purposes, that was a huge win for their defense as they stopped KC in three plays setting up that FG.


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