So Bray is pretty much a lost cause at this point...right?

I don't think he'll make it past the first round of cuts.

I don't think you can conclude that after one preseason game. Yeah, he didn't look great, but still gotta let it play out through the preseason. In my mind, it's Alex then Foles then anyone. Or maybe they'll just go with two QBs on the active roster -- guess that's always a possibility.

After 1 game, I would go Smith then Murray. Murray had the best looking drive of the game to open the 2nd half IMO.

Yeah this is a bit of a lie on your part.

Ford played about 30 snaps a game last year. He played more snaps than Josh Mauga, Tyvon Branch and Husain Abdullah, all major contributors on our defense.

He had three of his four sacks in a game against one of the worst offensive lines in football.

Remind me where he was in the playoffs. Nowhere to be found.

He's moving closer and closer to being just a guy. Make or break year and the first look wasn't good.

I know, there's still time, but simple concepts like sealing the edge, containment and tackling (not going for the strip) make it seem like he just doesn't know what he's doing.

It's one thing if he's asked to a 3rd down rushbacker and quite another to be a complete player. I just need to see some progress and regardless of whether or not he improves, the Chiefs definitely need to take an OLBer in the first 2 rounds next year.

Bray was an awful 3 for 9 and displayed the same issues since 2013. He has zero command of the offense and while he can dazzle with arm strength, it means nothing if it's incomplete or intercepted.

It's time to pull the plug.

I think it's inconceivable that an Andy Reid coached football team carries only 2 QB's.

Bray can let it rip but has 0 accuracy on short stuff. Not a good fit for this offense move on.

That's because in those 6 games he played every single snap. He barely played his first season and a half. Not enough to expect any production even when he did. Justin Houston also had more than those guys, and significantly more than Ford. Ford and Mauga were close. Those 4 sacks came in those games he started, so I don't see how I lied.

Wow Staylor is really Nick Athan

Do you care to actually have a rebuttal? You never do. I'm open to an argument, but you never have shit to say.

ROFL

He had three sacks in one game and one sack in one of the other three games.

He played at least 15 snaps in 10 games last year and was invisible in most of them. He had three games with 50+ snaps in each in which he didn't get a sack.

Get over it. First-round picks who aren't sacking the QB consistently by their third year are busts and it looks like that's where we're headed.

You can say this about a lot of pass rushers. A lot of them get their sacks in bunches.

How much production do your really expect from 15 snaps? Because he couldn't have had much more than that in the games he didn't start. Houston and Hali were almost always in the game.

Yea I just gave 3 example that completely say otherwise, but go ahead and be a moron and call a guy a bust after less than a seasons worth of snaps.

Not sure I'd say Ford is a complete lost cause, but right now he looks like a 3rd down rusher only. He was a complete liability on running plays.

Dezman Moses was a lot better yesterday in all facets. Watch the Justin March 4th down stop. Moses was right there. If Ford doesn't step it up I'd start Moses.

Unfortunately Dee Ford is looking like GB's Nick Perry.