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9er guy 08-13-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9881158)
Ummm, we are kind of used to that level of ineptitude.

*Sigh* It's rough brotha. But again, this guy doesn't need to be Tom Brady to get you guys in the tournament.

The AFC is WIDE OPEN. I don't believe in any Peyton Manning lead team in the postseason, so I'm not sold on Denver.

9er guy 08-13-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881164)
He would have to jump and throw to get it over the defender.

Or throw it while you're running. Just a thought.

jd1020 08-13-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881164)
I get how much space was in front McCluster, that's not what I am talking about. The issue is the defender in front of him. He has no time to plant and throw. He would have to jump and throw to get it over the defender.

GTFO if you think that defender is a problem in making that throw. The problem is Alex Smith being a good ol' boy that doesn't want to entertain the idea of making a mistake and takes the safe route 99.9% of the time.

Kaepernick 08-13-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08 (Post 9881089)
So the guy goes 7/8 and all you guys can talk about is the one incomplete pass? No wonder the Chiefs have sucked for so long - the fan base is riddled with negative nancy's! You guys are trolls.

NO.

It is a clear illustration of Alex's success with the check downs and dump offs vs. he weakness being unwilling to pull the trigger on some passes. It illustrates perfectly what Alex can do -- putting the ball in the hands of his receiving backs to sustain drives, and what he can't do -- show willingness to throw into a window, to throw receivers open, to throw into coverage as needed.

I don't care if he went 49 for 50. The play stands on its own as a topic for discussion, when that topic is Alex's inability to see the open receiver, or unwillingness to throw the ball.

Alex is risk averse.

Here is a perfect example.

That is the difference between Alex and a guy like Eli Manning. Eli is in no way elite, but he is NOT risk averse. In clutch play, Eli still ATTACKS the defense. Often it ends in interceptions, but it also brought him 2 super bowl rings from the wild-card slot.

Alex is too cautious. No guts, no glory. We have seen that for years and years. Now the Chiefs fans will be seeing it.

Alex is risk averse. And that only takes you so far...

Ace Gunner 08-13-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 9881084)
Line-of-sight? The devil you say. Alex has line-of-sight between 2 spread defenders when the WR is circled in yellow. He HAS line-of-sight. WFT? 5'-10" Russell Wilson would have had line-of-sight on that pass, AND COMPLETED IT.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex.gif

Somebody else made the Alexcuse that a DB is in the right corner. Yes, with the WR in the middle of the field wide open and half the field to work with. That is an EASY completion for most QBs. EASY.

Alex often can't see or is unwilling to pull the trigger down field. I've seen this too many times, too many years to buy your Alexcuses. Don't mind me. I'll let you wait until mid-season when you've also seen it too many times and are pulling your hair out in frustration. You are gonna learn this from first hand experience and it won't take many games to see it.

that's a broken play -- Hudson got plowed and the guy was in smiff's face when that play was designed to pull the trigger on Baldwin.

Hudson has got to get better than this -- was not impressed.

mdchiefsfan 08-13-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9881176)
Or throw it while you're running. Just a thought.

If he did that he would be throwing across his body, which is a big no-no. Sorry. Not a good throw to try. He tried to rush past the defender, but he wound up just accelerating faster than McCluster LMAO and then there was no play.

jd1020 08-13-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881184)
If he did that he would be throwing across his body, which is a big no-no. Sorry. Not a good throw to try. He tried to rush past the defender, but he wound up just accelerating faster than McCluster LMAO and then there was no play.

He accelerated faster than McCluster? At least we know you are blind as **** now.

9er guy 08-13-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08 (Post 9881156)
Simply chucking the ball around to "find out" what he's capable of is ludicrous. This isn't Saturday flag football at the beach.

We're talking about a 10 yard throw to a wide open McCluster.

mdchiefsfan 08-13-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9881177)
GTFO if you think that defender is a problem in making that throw. The problem is Alex Smith being a good ol' boy that doesn't want to entertain the idea of making a mistake and takes the safe route 99.9% of the time.

It was the right call.

Jakemall 08-13-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881164)
I get how much space was in front McCluster, that's not what I am talking about. The issue is the defender in front of him. He has no time to plant and throw. He would have to jump and throw to get it over the defender.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex2.gif

Not just the defender in his face..that is part of it...but there is a DB sitting on top watching the whole thing..and he's not 20 yards out...he's not 15 yards out...he's less than 10 and in position to make a play.

If Alex wanted to try and make this play, he'd have to pop it up and short so that his guy could barely make it to the ball. At which point he'd get hit by either the LB that's 5 yards short of him or the DB on top.

It's just not worth it. He made the right call.

mdchiefsfan 08-13-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9881188)
He accelerated faster than McCluster? At least we know you are blind as **** now.

You don't see him try to run around the defender hoping McCluster would be there on the other side and McCluster stays at the same pace?

jd1020 08-13-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9881198)
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/wtfalex2.gif

Not just the defender in his face..that is part of it...but there is a DB sitting on top watching the whole thing..and he's not 20 yards out...he's not 15 yards out...he's less than 10 and in position to make a play.

If Alex wanted to try and make this play, he'd have to pop it up and short so that his guy could barely make it to the ball. At which point he'd get hit by either the LB that's 5 yards short of him or the DB on top.

It's just not worth it. He made the right call.

ROFL

If you think that DB had any play on the ball if it was thrown you're an idiot.

9er guy 08-13-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881184)
If he did that he would be throwing across his body, which is a big no-no. Sorry. Not a good throw to try. He tried to rush past the defender, but he wound up just accelerating faster than McCluster LMAO and then there was no play.

What you have to do is take the hit.

McCluster is faster than Smith. So it's only across the body once Dex is even with Smith. Smith has to extend his arm for the short flip and take the hit.

Now it's pre-season , so you're not trying to take unnecessary knocks.

So in that respect, I get it. But in terms of a football play?

There's a play to me made there. That's what you guys brought him in to do.

jd1020 08-13-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9881202)
You don't see him try to run around the defender hoping McCluster would be there on the other side and McCluster stays at the same pace?

You're an idiot.

McCluster is done running at full speed by that point because he's wide the **** open and doing the classic "Throw the ball Casse... I mean Smith!"

Jakemall 08-13-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9881205)
ROFL

If you think that DB had any play on the ball if it was thrown you're an idiot.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-thumbs-up.gif


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