Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637251)

But if Mike Moustakas getting hit listccident is grounds for drilling Donaldson the next day and the Jays should've just understood and been okay with that, what are the Royals doing leaving the dugout when Sanchez hits Escobar after Tulowitzki gets hit?

There's absolutely a double standard here. When your guys hit one of theirs, intent is what controls. When their guys hit one of yours, well to hell with intent, one of our guys got it. When Ventura catches a comeback and starts yelling at the baserunner as he goes down the line, it's just being a firey kid. When Donaldson flips his bat, he's a drama queen.

And yet the team most frequently in the middle of these affairs is the Royals. I'm sure it's everyone else's fault.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11637324)

11-6 on the year vs. the JV league.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637331)

And? Cards with a winning record against the 'Varsity' and a .667 against the big dog of the lot.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Cain has been in the middle of plenty of temper tantrums this year. And really, gonna just forget about Herrera's garbage in the 'make an ass of himself' derby? Or are you gonna justify that one as well? Probably the latter.

Again - just brick after brick after brick. Any singular incident in a vacuum isn't much but the Royals are in the middle of more of them than any team in baseball.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11637338)

Man you are showing your ass in this thread. White Sox drama started opening day when Samardzija plunked Cain. Lawrie hard slide, he took one and it was pretty much over until Kazmir plunked a batter and it was on once again.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Cain has been in the middle of plenty of temper tantrums this year. And really, gonna just forget about Herrera's garbage in the 'make an ass of himself' derby? Or are you gonna justify that one as well? Probably the latter.

Again - just brick after brick after brick. Any singular incident in a vacuum isn't much but the Royals are in the middle of more of them than any team in baseball.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637282)

I wouldn't have had an issue at all with Wolf tossing Donaldson - that doesn't have a damn thing to do with yet another incident of the Royals leaving the dugout and being red asses. They used Donaldson's histrionics to deflect attention and excuse themselves on twitter afterward but then when Ventura goes off calling a 6-time All Star and legitimate stud like Bautista a 'nobody', their justifications start to ring a little hollow, do they not?

Call it youth or swagger or whatever, but it can't be ignored. Royals fans call it an edge, most others....do not. And for Royals fans to have embraced that black hat role then turn around and tell someone like Donaldson who had legitimate reasons to be pissed to just nut it up and walk to first is absolutely hypocritical.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Cain has been in the middle of plenty of temper tantrums this year. And really, gonna just forget about Herrera's garbage in the 'make an ass of himself' derby? Or are you gonna justify that one as well? Probably the latter.

Again - just brick after brick after brick. Any singular incident in a vacuum isn't much but the Royals are in the middle of more of them than any team in baseball.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11637354)

Ventura going at Bautista was a response to two things: Bautista calling out Ned Yost (who for all his shortcomings, is loved by his players) and Bautista being the center of the Royals' sign-stealing complaints (which is an issue that has followed him around for a long time, too).

Ventura is a red-ass who needs to mature. Just don't act like he started that whole Twitter exchange out of nowhere.



Lawrie's slide was late, dirty, and unnecessary. You won't convince anyone here of anything different. And you won't convince those of us who played baseball at advanced levels that slide and the placement of his foot was necessary. It wasn't.

Cain has been drilled a lot. He doesn't like that, and he - like most players - looks at the pitcher and might say something to him as he walks to first. What are you talking about regarding temper tantrums, though? Cain hasn't done anything that even closely resembles a temper tantrum (he's never even done anything close to what Donaldson did on Sunday).

The whole thing with the White Sox never goes ANYWHERE if Jeff Samardzija doesn't bull rush his way through everybody trying get to Cain.

The benches might not even empty if Samardzija isn't yelling shit from the dugout at Christian Colon of all ****ing people the previous inning (after Colon lined out and was waiting for someone to bring him his glove).

Yeah, that was ALL the Royals.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11637320)

They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Cain has been in the middle of plenty of temper tantrums this year. And really, gonna just forget about Herrera's garbage in the 'make an ass of himself' derby? Or are you gonna justify that one as well? Probably the latter.

Again - just brick after brick after brick. Any singular incident in a vacuum isn't much but the Royals are in the middle of more of them than any team in baseball.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11637133)

Royals success, upping Royals thread participation from new fans and Cards fans alike.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 11637332)

Just thought since PB threw out league records - you'd actually like to see, ya know, league records.

Thanks for filling me in on the series details. Much appreciated.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11637206)

This is the most Cardinals thing ever. Best fans in baseball! Coming in here making all kinds of generalizations that are completely out of context and acting like they're above it all, when their team is just as likely as anyone to retaliate against someone. What a load of crap.