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Dante84 03-06-2023 02:31 PM
My read on it:

- Veach wants OBJ on a long-term deal that won't break the bank. That may not be possible.
- OBJ wants to be here, but wants to get paid top of the market, which is what he thinks he deserves.
- The tag is a poor option, because Veach wants to have cap space *now* to use elsewhere; last year we got strung along with Tyreek's extension, and it altered the process (still thankfully worked out) and where we could/could not spend.

So, now:

- OBJ will hit FA and let the market tell him what he's worth
- If he'll allow us to match and is open to returning, and its a deal we're comfortable with, OBJ signs and we move forward.
- If he signs elsewhere and someone overpays (in Veach's mind), then we collect a 3rd, maybe, as a comp pick next year depending on what else we do this FA session.
- Additionally, we likely have an idea as to who is available via trade and what the cost is, or we have a few rookies that we have our eye on and have an idea as to where they will slot in range for us to jump up.

Interested to see where Brett puts his dong now that he's flopped it on the table.

Mecca 03-06-2023 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16839874)
I guess you bring Wylie back at RT then
I don't see that either, Wyle can probably get a 15 aav from a team like the Bears they have 100 mill of space in a blah FA year.

DRM08 03-06-2023 02:32 PM
It will be interesting to see what they do.

chiefforlife 03-06-2023 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16839881)
Jawaan Taylor is our LT next year...

Makes all the sense in the world.

I'd pay him $17-18 million/season on a deal that is essentially a 3 year deal with 'options' to take it out to 5 on us (He's only 25 right now).

So how do we do this....

5 years, $90 million. Signing bonus of $25 million. Base salaries of $2/$8 and $13 million in years 1-3 (giving him $48 million in the first 3 seasons). Salaries of $18 and $24 million in years 4 and 5.

So:

$25 million bonus
$2, 8, 13, 18, 24 in salaries in years 1-5.

If he makes the transition to LT, that year 4 number is probably still wholly reasonable by then and if he makes it well, year 5 is at least tolerable enough to leverage into a restructure or play on it outright.

If he's stuck at RT you have cap hits for your RT of $7 million, $13 million and $18 million over 3 seasons before you probably cut him loose with a June 1 designation and split that $10 million in dead money over a couple years.

I could live with that. There's a reasonable ceiling and a high floor. Some value baked in if everything goes really well, a makeable escape hatch if it doesn't.
I could live with this. Very well thought out, sir!

KCUnited 03-06-2023 02:33 PM
Most recent Mahomes xray

https://i.imgur.com/NWSEb28.jpg

Mecca 03-06-2023 02:33 PM
The only thing OBJ has going for him is this is a really bad FA year so a bad team with money might bite the bullet.

Superbowltrashcan 03-06-2023 02:35 PM
The Bengals saw what their DL did in multiple contests against OBJ. I think they would be reticent to even look at him for the money he is asking for. He got his ring. We chipped and helped him a lot. Let another team deal with all of it.

O.city 03-06-2023 02:35 PM
Maybe Bahktiari gets cut?

DJ's left nut 03-06-2023 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16839892)
I think that has to be the plan A. Or a stopgap like Kelvin Beachum. With Andre Dillard lurking out there as a real possibility.
It just doesn't seem coincidental to me that it's announced that Evan Engram will get the Jacksonville Tag and suddenly Taylor, who played under Pederson and thus knows the terminology, is a FA and OBJ's no longer getting said tag...

T-post Tom 03-06-2023 02:36 PM
May still end up a Chief, but unlikely. I like it that Veach didn't blink. :thumb: (Would love to know which side the "source" is on.)

Eleazar 03-06-2023 02:36 PM
Very interesting. We know they aren't going into next season without an LT in place, so I wonder if something isn't in the works already.

DJ's left nut 03-06-2023 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16839907)
Maybe Bahktiari gets cut?
More like Broketiari.

Don't want busted ass OTs.

I'd take mediocre over unavailable.

BWillie 03-06-2023 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16839881)
Jawaan Taylor is our LT next year...

Makes all the sense in the world.

I'd pay him $17-18 million/season on a deal that is essentially a 3 year deal with 'options' to take it out to 5 on us (He's only 25 right now).

So how do we do this....

5 years, $90 million. Signing bonus of $25 million. Base salaries of $2/$8 and $13 million in years 1-3 (giving him $48 million in the first 3 seasons). Salaries of $18 and $24 million in years 4 and 5.

So:

$25 million bonus
$2, 8, 13, 18, 24 in salaries in years 1-5.

If he makes the transition to LT, that year 4 number is probably still wholly reasonable by then and if he makes it well, year 5 is at least tolerable enough to leverage into a restructure or play on it outright.

If he's stuck at RT you have cap hits for your RT of $7 million, $13 million and $18 million over 3 seasons before you probably cut him loose with a June 1 designation and split that $10 million in dead money over a couple years.

I could live with that. There's a reasonable ceiling and a high floor. Some value baked in if everything goes really well, a makeable escape hatch if it doesn't.
This idea you have.

I like it.

Mecca 03-06-2023 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16839907)
Maybe Bahktiari gets cut?
If they're serious about moving Rodgers I don't think they want to weaken the team around Love.

It's just hard to see any teams being willing to just give up their LT.

Mecca 03-06-2023 02:38 PM
The Taylor idea isn't bad...

I just question what his AAV is gonna be because of how bad the market is.


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