Same here.

I thought it was a pretty good character dev. episode for beth and daryl...

Not enough crazy shit going on to please some folks. Next weeks episode looks like something will happen

Thought it was a good episode - looks like things are going to start picking up now.

A quiet character building episode, not the greatest but I thought it was a good episode.

Just stop watching the show.

I enjoyed the episode as well. Yeah it wasn't the most exciting episode, but it wasn't intended to be that way. Next weeks episode looks like it is intended to be intense. Can't wait!

But... But then he won't have something to bitch about.

I never bitch about this show. I love it.

But goddamn was last night bad. I don't want to watch an annoying insignificant character cry about alcohol and throw a tantrum for an hour.

Character building episodes. I was fine with it. I actually thought it was more about building Darryl than Beth. Definitely not "worst episode" of the series.

I'm perfectly fine with this type of episode. Unfortunately, I don't feel like I learned anything about either character. Their back story reflections were exactly what they've been portrayed to be if you've watched from the beginning. So basically it was an hour of blandness IMO, with no revelations that reveal something new or unique about either character.

I disagree. I think we learned how much Beth and Darryl need each other; Darryl keeps their bodies alive, but I think Beth is keeping Darryl headed toward finding the/a group. You can see from the episode that Darryl had gone into full-on survival mode. Beth was keeping them moving, keeping them looking. Without her, I think Darryl would live out the rest of his life as a loner in the woods.

Also, I think you learned that Darryl puts what happened at the prison squarely on his own shoulders. His breakdown was a good scene and showed his grief and guilt.

And finally, I think you saw a little development with Beth, how she handles the grief, but how she really is a survivor.

Just my 2 cents, but it certainly wasn't a wasted episode, IMO.

Was anyone but me wondering how deeply they thought through the concept of starting a raging forest fire during the zombie apocalypse?

I wondered why they hadn't been using car trunks as shelter longer...

Perfectly said. :thumb:

To expand on this, the fact that Darryl finally told someone what he was before the zombies (he was a worthless redneck just following his worthless brother) adds weight to his breakdown about the prison.

Before he was nothing, had no purpose. Now he has a purpose and he puts it all on himself that it (the prison and the hope it contained) failed. People respected him, looked up to him, counted on him and his feelings of letting them down was powerful.

I would guess that because there isn't really a back way of a trunk. They get caught inside of one, there isn't anything they can do to really get out.

All newer vehicles (last 10 years or so) have emergency releases, and most back seats fold down for access to the cabin.

True. But in the case like last night - had they made noise and attracted that herd to the car, they would have been done for.

Beth pushing Darryl to keep moving was clear and important enough I guess. As for Darryl's ownership of the prison fallout, I thought we'd already established that he had leadership tendencies and had taken the loss of security and people hard. He referenced the loss of Hershel earlier this season in sadness. As for Beth, she did what she's done all along. Survived, despite an apparent innocence. I'm not saying the continuation of these concepts isn't important, we just didn't need an hour to call them out.

Exactly, I'd rather try to out run them than be stuck in a car surrounded. Zombies aren't the type to move on when they get bored if they know there are live humans in the car. At least, that's my perception of zombie behavior without ever having had any first hand experience. :D

Sounds like a great way to get a heat stroke.

They had to of been exhausted from running to climb into that trunk with no other means of escape.

Yeah, the trunk of a car would be an extreme last resort measure for me.

Not a fan of the car trunk, but they were desperate. The episode was good enough for me, not something i'd like to see every week but it worked. Next week looks like a collision of stuff going on, interested to see if Rick party will be show as will Glenns party at all or will it be another seperate episode

Daryl reminded me of Kenny ****ing Powers when he was going off on a tangent in the house.

My son wants me to watch this show with him. I've seen 3 or 4 episodes. Just can't get into it. 2 words for this show; SLOW and BORING.

Maybe there's a medication you can give him for that.

Perfectly stated.

Dammit.

Well. With zombies being attracted to light and noise. A raging fire would be like a bug light. Or zombie light. No batteries required.

Only thing missing from the episode was a drunk hook up. Beth is what 18 or 19 in the show and like 27 in real life? We needed some skin.

her and Darryl meeting back up with Maggie nd Carol five months pregnant would be an interesting scenario.

Well, it is a drama/thriller not action show.

I would have done it a long time ago.

I want to see winter Zombies. Have not seen that yet.

On the after show when the idea of a hookup was brought up both were very coy about it. In fact Reedus pointed at Kinney and said something like, “this one is all her.”

Snakeskin condom

Condom? You raw dog it in the zombie world.

Scaled for her pleasure.

I really do not like these episodes focusing on just 2 people.

In World War Z (the book), they flee north because the zombies all freeze solid in the cold and can't move.

Yep. It was an issue at first though because most people didn't have the supplies to survive the first winter. Then, when the ice thawed, they had to deal with the zombies again.

That was a good book. I should probably read it again soon.

Shit, a smart group would thrive in the north. You can freely scavenge and build. You would be able to hit all the stores, get remaining supplies, grab tanker trucks and pool the fuel. Use empty cars as barricades. Could set up a nice spread.

The bonus is free whack a mole on a frozen zombies. You could grid out and take out thousands.

You might be right but a Florida boy like me wouldn't know the first thing about winter survival. I literally don't even own a winter coat, a pair of gloves, skull cap, etc. How do you even survive a winter up north without a refrigerator? I feel like you'd have to kill an animal to eat everyday with no plant/berry life..

Combine my lack of knowledge with the mass hysteria of a zombie apocalypse and I'd have no chance surviving that first winter.

If it stays cold all winter, you have this great big natural refrigerator/freezer available.

Refrigerators are also used to keep food from freezing in below freezing environments. ;)

True but in talking about winter survival, having your food freeze is better than having it spoil. You can always thaw it.

My grandpa was born and raised in the mountains of northern Idaho. They didn't have power and once the snow started, the roads to town were impassable.

For winter, they had a building with screened in sides. They would hunt deer, dress them and then hang them in the meat building. You wanted them to freeze solid so that they would ride through the occasional non-freezing day.

They would also slaughter pigs in the fall. Some of the pork could be cured and smoked but most of it would go to making and cooking up a shit ton of sausage patties. The patties were then layered in big crocks. The pig fat was rendered down to lard and then poured over the sausage patties. This preserved them through the winter.

Meat was also canned but mostly as a survival measure. Grandpa said it wasn't very good.

Fruit and vegetables were canned except for things that stored well, like apples, potatoes and onions. Flour, sugar and stuff like that also stored well in large bags in the fruit cellar.

ThaVirus said:

It's definitely do-able. It's just a ton of work, You also have issues if you have a warm winter (that's what the canned meat is for).

So ladies, on last week's episode, Daryl horking on snake shank. Most disgusting thing ever or sexiest?

I know that when he and Beth get drunk and have it out, that might have been the best scene in the series.

They both BROUGHT THUNDER in that scene. Nearly had me saying McConaughey who?

Norman Reedus says the slow episodes are over, the shit is supposed to start hitting the fan tonight...

I'm losing interest in this show, fast. Tonight's episode did absolutely nothing to advance the plot or their characters, with the possible exception of splitting up Beth and Darrell, which they could have done in the first five minutes. The characters continue to be dumb as bricks, and the person-fighting-out-of-an-impossible-situation schtick has grown old. Next week looks like another 'character study', and now they're already advertising that there are only three episodes left until the end of the season.

I don't think I'll be back for season four.

i thought it was a great episode myself. nice assortment of cast interaction.

watching the talking dead now. sonequia (sp?)'s got fantastic legs. still wouldn't mind putting my d in lc's v.

only 3 episodes left. damnit!! and who the hell is joe?

ROFLLMAO

I'm going to be pissed if the dead kid from Stand by Me doesn't make an appearance next episode.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

That preview was creepy.

I disagree completely, I like the individual group survival storyline. There are multiple plot lines going on and it's keeping me intrigued.

That Daryl mortuary scene with the group of walkers at the door was legit.

I found her to be incredibly sexy and all I got from Joe is that he was the guy who was on the porch with Rick earlier.

You say that quite a bit. Who elected you president of what a person's opinion of this show should be?

JFC, take a chill pill.

I don't care if someone doesn't like the show. What I'm bored of is every. single. ****ing. episode. some people coming here complaining about the show and its direction and claiming they're about done.

No one is forcing anyone to watch this show. If it bores you, stop watching. There are many who enjoy these slower story lines and understand what the writers are doing.

agreed, if the show sucks to you why waste anymore time with it? Then you come in and post on here that the show sucks and you're done. it makes no sense to me when people do that.

its just a ****ing graphic cartoon novel they made into a tv show. Its going to have plot holes and someshit is going to be stupid. If one thought it was going to be some award nominated show, just punch yourself in the face about 4 times.

Anyway...wonder where Daryl goes from here since he's with the asshole group that Rick dodged. Wonder who took Beth

Solid episode, though I know they needed an action scene, I just don't think that Daryl opening the door like that was a Daryl-esque move. We all know he's smarter than that shit.

Daryl opening the door without checking it first was a pretty dumb move.

He totally underestimated the Dawg and his zombie army.

I can understand why people would develop a love-hate relationship with this show. This is the first time I've out and out complained that I've had enough, and I've said now what I needed to about that.

Tonight actually got me interested again... and no... IT WASNT JUST ABOUT ZOMBIE ACTION.

It was about big script flips... Daryl finds himself all alone thinking 'humanity/love' has abandoned him yet again. That bit alone welcomes itself to all kinds of new dilemmas.

Then throw in the group that took him in tonight and there is a whole new kettle brewing.

Yeah, take it for what it is. I did that a long time ago and I find that I'm rarely disappointed anymore as a result.

For me, although I enjoyed the first half of this season better, I still think right now the show is far better off than where we were at this time in season 3.

I'm still interested in how this all comes together. Though I kind of wish they'd spend more time with that new group they introduced with Glenn a few episodes back.

In the final scene where Glen sees a sign for Terminus, where was Abraham, Eugene, and the hot girls?

otr, I guess it is logical that hot girls are natural survivors. You would think that 'softball girls' would have an advantage and skill set for survival too.

I thought it was a pretty good ep. Poor Bastard can't catch a break.

The TV series is kinda in a lose lose situation. First, they have the very good comics and video game to be compared to. Then, there are those that just want their "zombie kill of the week." Others want the complex character arcs. Finally, others want it to solve a giant mystery of why this zombie thing happened. (Those people will never get that.)

I feel that 2nd half of this season has been them moving these chess pieces around and trying to satisfy all of the people above and it is pissing a lot of people off because of it.

Like others said, its best if you dont take this show too seriously.

I think they were there with him, they just zoomed in on Glen, to show his facial expression. Anyway, that is my opinion.

I thought it was solid
who the **** was in the cadillac?

Maybe Terminus has sex trade run by sex slavery?



Oh wait - this is network TV. nm

Probably the guy who was using the house.

Not network. Cable. HUGE difference.

Yeah. I misspoke. Thanks.

I'm assuming the dog was trained to sniff out living people?

I don't think it was the people living in the house, as they appeared to take her away from there.

That mortuary was a trap. Had to be. Too well kept, stocked with enticing snack foods/drink.
Then suddenly a herd of walkers just shows up at the door to chase them out, separate them? That was a setup. Now I’m just wondering who.

Hmm... I didn't think of that...