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Ceej 03-16-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9505515)
That's just what happens to an inferior ISU team that doesn't hit 15 threes against Kansas. It's a shame because if they had played some defense this year, they really could have been something. Better hope for a shooting streak in the tournament.

Or really had any interior presence, whatsoever.

ArrowheadHawk 03-16-2013 06:46 PM

One win away from another 30 win season.

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 9506897)
One win away from another 30 win season.

I'll take a 35 win season please.... :)

Mr_Tomahawk 03-16-2013 06:54 PM

RockChalkBlog.com ‏@RockChalkBlog
If Kansas wins their first game of the NCAA tournament, the Jayhawks would have four straight 30-win seasons. An NCAA record. #kubball


KUsports.com ‏@KUsports
Self, on Weber's comments earlier in the week: "Our guys certainly knew about it." #kubball

RustShack 03-16-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9505515)
That's just what happens to an inferior ISU team that doesn't hit 15 threes against Kansas. It's a shame because if they had played some defense this year, they really could have been something. Better hope for a shooting streak in the tournament.

Yep I know. We need a big too. Babb is really our only defender. We have a few Jucos coming in who were recruited for defense, and also a freshman that is regarded as a great defender also who didn't play this year because his dad and then brother died this year. Supposedly one of the Juco Bigs cleaned up against ours in an open gym thing, so that's a little encouraging.

Threes will still be flying next year, hopefully the defense is a little better. Niang should only get better and we have two stud freshman coming in! Next year really depends on who steps up at guard, but that will always be a position of strength under Fred(at least in terms of shooting).

Sorry, not trying to troll.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-16-2013 07:21 PM

JayhawkSlant ‏@JayhawkSlant
The Jayhawks have now won 47 of the last 50 meetings vs. Kansas State #kubball

#titletown

Mr_Tomahawk 03-16-2013 07:38 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFhcWVVCMAAx7T2.jpg

Ceej 03-16-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9506918)
RockChalkBlog.com ‏@RockChalkBlog
If Kansas wins their first game of the NCAA tournament, the Jayhawks would have four straight 30-win seasons. An NCAA record. #kubball


KUsports.com ‏@KUsports
Self, on Weber's comments earlier in the week: "Our guys certainly knew about it." #kubball

Someone refresh my memory - what comments did Weber make?

WilliamTheIrish 03-16-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9507080)
Someone refresh my memory - what comments did Weber make?

The " we were waiting celebrate until the officials blah blah in Ames blah blah""

Prison Bitch 03-16-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9507080)
Someone refresh my memory - what comments did Weber make?

Like all KSU folks, he was complaining about the refs being in KU's pocket.

notorious 03-16-2013 08:10 PM

It was like night and day out there. Crisp offense, excellent defense, and pure atheletes out their doing their thing vs. whatever the **** KSU was doing.


Nice game, KU.

Ceej 03-16-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9507166)
The " we were waiting celebrate until the officials blah blah in Ames blah blah""

That's what I thought.

I didn't know if there were any other famous Weber quotes this week.

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9507180)
It was like night and day out there. Crisp offense, excellent defense, and pure atheletes out their doing their thing vs. whatever the **** KSU was doing.


Nice game, KU.

Thanks notorious, you guys deserve better than Whiny Weber.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-16-2013 09:26 PM

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9060418

Lzen 03-16-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9506918)
KUsports.com ‏@KUsports
Self, on Weber's comments earlier in the week: "Our guys certainly knew about it." #kubball

That's what I love about Self. Earlier in the week he was asked about the comments and Bill just replied with "no comment". He let his team provide the response on the court. :thumb:

Braincase 03-16-2013 09:42 PM

Nutmeg
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WPItwvBONnk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 09:45 PM

Neville Fincher ‏ @ Neville_Fincher These Kansas fans is ruthless! I love it, though. Can't wait to silence you all next year! Game time in half an hour! We'll see wassup then!

K-States Center next year..here is his profile..lolz

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/...60gVKBuazasJB4

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 09:52 PM

Rich Zvosec ‏ @ CoachZZ

No argument Kansas win nixes Indiana as 1 seed.

Ceej 03-16-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9507475)
Neville Fincher ‏ @ Neville_Fincher These Kansas fans is ruthless! I love it, though. Can't wait to silence you all next year! Game time in half an hour! We'll see wassup then!

K-States Center next year..here is his profile..lolz

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/...60gVKBuazasJB4

Is this dude walking on next year?

LMAO

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9507497)
Is this dude walking on next year?

LMAO

That is Webers' prized recruit a 2 star center.

Ceej 03-16-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9507508)
That is Webers' prized recruit a 2 star center.

Ouch.

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9507518)
Ouch.

The worst part is his overuse of twitter to post funny stuff..I mean it's not intended to be funny..but...ah well.

Lzen 03-16-2013 10:10 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFcfQh0CUAAgtE6.png:large

Ceej 03-16-2013 10:27 PM

NM - My phone is a POS.

teedubya 03-16-2013 10:43 PM

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...62295446_o.jpg

Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 11:45 PM

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Imon Yourside 03-16-2013 11:54 PM

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Iowa state fan arrested and had to wear a helmet, they couldn't get him to stop booing..

Chiefs Pantalones 03-16-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9507755)

I fell off my couch when this happened. My wife couldn't believe it either. Too strong.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-16-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 9507472)
Nutmeg
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WPItwvBONnk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

Al Czervik 03-17-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9507770)
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Iowa state fan arrested and had to wear a helmet, they couldn't get him to stop booing..

LMAO

KC_Connection 03-17-2013 03:40 AM

Maybe Weber will learn to keep his mouth shut next time about such things. I have little doubt that his classless comments gave KU a little extra motivation and that's the last thing you want to do with a team like this that has often been complacent.

Also looks like KU may have played themselves back into a #1 with this three game stretch, although it's not certain.

Bambi 03-17-2013 05:52 AM

Got to get this #1 seed.

Buehler445 03-17-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9507773)
I fell off my couch when this happened. My wife couldn't believe it either. Too strong.

I had a buddy and his wife come over for the game. Between me and my wife and him and his wife, the four of us laughed pretty goddamned hard. I don't think I'd laughed that hard in a long goddamned time. Just brutal. Spradling will probably hang himself tonight.

I don't remember much about the play prior to that, why was Spradling on Johnson? That's just a poor matchup for Spradling. He'd be much better on Releford or even McLemore, not the guy who's job it is to get to the basket. Rodriguez should have been on EJ.

DJay23 03-17-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9507773)
I fell off my couch when this happened. My wife couldn't believe it either. Too strong.

That's the kind of shit you try on the play ground but almost never get away with. ROFL

DJay23 03-17-2013 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9507925)
Maybe Weber will learn to keep his mouth shut next time about such things. I have little doubt that his classless comments gave KU a little extra motivation and that's the last thing you want to do with a team like this that has often been complacent.

Also looks like KU may have played themselves back into a #1 with this three game stretch, although it's not certain.

I'd be shocked if KU wasn't a 1. The resume for it is as good as anyone's.

Buehler445 03-17-2013 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9507980)
That's the kind of shit you try on the play ground but almost never get away with. ROFL

It's happened to me once. And it was my huge ass trying to guard a point guard in rec league basketball in college. It was not awesome. But it was a post trying to guard a point guard straight up. And it was NOT major college basketball.

Several others have tried it, because I'm a huge ass, but only one guy got it done.

DJay23 03-17-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9507983)
It's happened to me once. And it was my huge ass trying to guard a point guard in rec league basketball in college. It was not awesome. But it was a post trying to guard a point guard straight up. And it was NOT major college basketball.

Several others have tried it, because I'm a huge ass, but only one guy got it done.

I've done it to people before just messing around, but more often than not the who was guarding me figured out what I was going to do before I did it and either backed off or closed his legs. Maybe I was too obvious with my intentions. I just think it's funny that it worked in a conference title game in DI. And worked well!

Buehler445 03-17-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9507986)
I've done it to people before just messing around, but more often than not the who was guarding me figured out what I was going to do before I did it and either backed off or closed his legs. Maybe I was too obvious with my intentions. I just think it's funny that it worked in a conference title game in DI. And worked well!

Yeah, I was obviously not playing against EJ. In fact, I would probably never get close enough to him for him to throw it between my legs.

But yeah, Spradling had to be hating life after that deal. And another thing, at what point does it go through EJ's head that, "hey, I could get around Spradling if I chuck it through his legs."? I mean, really. Is that a normal though process for EJ?

DJay23 03-17-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9507989)
Yeah, I was obviously not playing against EJ. In fact, I would probably never get close enough to him for him to throw it between my legs.

But yeah, Spradling had to be hating life after that deal. And another thing, at what point does it go through EJ's head that, "hey, I could get around Spradling if I chuck it through his legs."? I mean, really. Is that a normal though process for EJ?

I think it is, which is probably why he turns the ball over so damn much.

Buehler445 03-17-2013 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9507990)
I think it is, which is probably why he turns the ball over so damn much.

Could very well be. Did that make top plays?

notorious 03-17-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9507365)
Thanks notorious, you guys deserve better than Whiny Weber.

Nah, we don't deserve anything, but thanks anyway.


I know what KSU is and isn't. KU will always be THE basketball program in Kansas, which I think is a great thing. Growing up and living in Kansas, it is something to be proud of.

I like KU's style of basketball a LOT more than KSU. It is more fun to watch because of fantastic ball movement and hard defense. They have the capability to implement their system against any other basketball program because of the talent on the court. I have been a huge Bill Self fan since his days of coaching down in Tulsa (at both schools).

Watching a Frank Martin team and what was out there this year just grinds me. Shitty ball movement and if any opposing team pushes KSU's offense beyond the perimeter KSU is done.



Congrats. I hope KU makes the state pround once again.

Buehler445 03-17-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9508006)
Nah, we don't deserve anything, but thanks anyway.


I know what KSU is and isn't. KU will always be THE basketball program in Kansas, which I think is a great thing. Growing up and living in Kansas, it is something to be proud of.

I like KU's style of basketball a LOT more than KSU. It is more fun to watch because of fantastic ball movement and hard defense. They have the capability to implement their system against any other basketball program because of the talent on the court. I have been a huge Bill Self fan since his days of coaching down in Tulsa (at both schools).

Watching a Frank Martin team and what was out there this year just grinds me. Shitty ball movement and if any opposing team pushes KSU's offense beyond the perimeter KSU is done.



Congrats. I hope KU makes the state pround once again.

This is a pretty good post. It's good to have some civil fans around. KSU (extension mostly) does me a lot of good. It pains me though, that a bunch of their fans are assbags (I know KU has their fair share of assbags).

Fact is, I have a hard time rooting against Snyder. Dude is amazing. I wish KU could pick up a Snyder type talent.

DJay23 03-17-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9507991)
Could very well be. Did that make top plays?

I don't know, I avoid Sportscenter like the plague.

Buehler445 03-17-2013 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9508033)
I don't know, I avoid Sportscenter like the plague.

Me too. That and I'm working my ass off right now. (Waiting for it to thaw so I can get rolling). But yeah. Surely somebody watches that crap.

Dunit35 03-17-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9508034)
Me too. That and I'm working my ass off right now. (Waiting for it to thaw so I can get rolling). But yeah. Surely somebody watches that crap.

I'll admit. It was #3. Can't explain how I know that.

DJay23 03-17-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 9508035)
I'll admit. It was #3. Can't explain how I know that.

Just say you read it somewhere else. :thumb:

Buehler445 03-17-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunit35 (Post 9508035)
I'll admit. It was #3. Can't explain how I know that.

I won't judge.





Much...

Chiefs Pantalones 03-17-2013 09:00 AM

Selection Sunday guys! What I've been reading so far says don't be surprised if the dumbass committee puts us as a 2 seed and let's UK into the tournament for money making purposes. I hope not. They would be stealing a bid that some other team deserves.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-17-2013 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9507982)
I'd be shocked if KU wasn't a 1. The resume for it is as good as anyone's.

But, but, but...Ryan Kelly!!!

I wanna play them so bad.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-17-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9507975)
I had a buddy and his wife come over for the game. Between me and my wife and him and his wife, the four of us laughed pretty goddamned hard. I don't think I'd laughed that hard in a long goddamned time. Just brutal. Spradling will probably hang himself tonight.

I don't remember much about the play prior to that, why was Spradling on Johnson? That's just a poor matchup for Spradling. He'd be much better on Releford or even McLemore, not the guy who's job it is to get to the basket. Rodriguez should have been on EJ.

It was awesome. It was like watching an episode of And 1.

sedated 03-17-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9508120)
Selection Sunday guys! What I've been reading so far says don't be surprised if the dumbass committee puts us as a 2 seed and let's UK into the tournament for money making purposes. I hope not. They would be stealing a bid that some other team deserves.

I prefer Kuntucky in the tournament - gets us closer in all time wins than if they make a run in the NIT.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-17-2013 09:27 AM

KU’s dominance isn’t the best thing for the Big 12
March 16
BY SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

The old joke that the Big 12 is Kansas and nine other schools in football and men’s basketball isn’t so funny anymore. Not when it comes to basketball, anyway.

The Kansas Jayhawks celebrated another Big 12 tournament championship Saturday night by beating rival Kansas State, 70-54. Head Coach Bill Self talks to the media about the need for a strong Big 12 conference and KU's being a possible number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Video by: Allison Long (03-16-13)

KU’s run of dominance has long passed the point of being historical, and it remains one of the incredible stories of both college basketball and Kansas City sports over the last decade. The Jayhawks own basketball in this league like they’re charging rent, and if there was any doubt, they just beat co-regular season champion K-State for a third time — 70-54 for the conference tournament championship at Sprint Center on Saturday.

K-State won its first regular-season conference title in 36 years, and that’s a terrific accomplishment. They’ll put this on a banner at Bramlage Coliseum. But in other places, this will be another team that couldn’t beat Kansas — the last two losses by a combined 37 points.

“Oh, there’s no doubt,” K-State coach Bruce Weber said when asked about the importance of beating KU. “It’s a big rivalry, but it’s not a rivalry until we make it a rivalry. And that means beat them somewhere.”

Weber said those words from the interview room at Sprint Center, and coincidentally, in the middle of the answer came a roar from the other side of the wall. It was the KU basketball team, celebrating, again. A fact: there have been more presidential elections (five) since 1994 than K-State wins over KU (three).

The numbers are preposterous. KU has now won 47 of the last 50 against K-State. The losses are so rare they stand out naturally: Jacob Pullen’s 38 points in 2011, Michael Beasley backing up his bizarre prediction that K-State could beat KU in “Africa” in 2008, and K-State breaking KU’s 55-game home-court winning streak in 2005.

Other than that, nothing. KU’s wins over K-State come so often they should be shown in syndication.

And while this is obviously a point of pride for Kansas — KU senior Travis Releford talked of especially wanting to beat K-State — it’s also bad for the program. Honest. Take it from Jayhawks coach Bill Self.

“We need (K-State) to be good because that brings interest,” he said. “I’ve said this many times: even when Missouri was in our league, it helped us when K-State and Missouri were both good because it raised our level. We want our league to be great. We want our league to be like the Big Ten was this year. Because it raises everybody else’s level.”

We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

This isn’t a rule without exceptions, of course, but it is one that coaches feel applies more times than not. So those Little Brother chants are historically accurate, but the big picture for both KU and the Big 12 would be better in a more balanced world.

In other words, basketball in the new Big 12 has an opening for a program that can knock KU off this pedestal. Mizzou is gone, Texas is bad, Oklahoma State isn’t there quite yet, and K-State appears to have a mental block against its natural rival.

This isn’t just about a sparring partner for KU, either. Perception matters in college basketball. It matters for recruiting, for donations, for rankings, and for NCAA Tournament seeds.

And the perception is that other than KU, Big 12 basketball stinks. That’s largely a myth created by KU’s dominance. The league was mediocre this year, but in the five previous seasons it ranked third, third, first, third and second among all conferences in RPI. Between five and seven teams made the NCAA Tournament each of those seasons.

Over the last nine years, only the ACC (.631) has a higher winning percentage than the Big 12 (.608) in the NCAA Tournament. And only the ACC (77-45) and Big East (100-67) have more wins.

But that’s not the way it’s often seen nationally, or by some recruits. That line about the league being Kansas and nine other schools has a way of sticking. It wasn’t like that when Texas made the Final Four, or Oklahoma. And it won’t be like in the future, if Weber can push K-State, or Texas rebounds, or Oklahoma State continues to rise.

Until then, the league will be seen by many as something less than it is. By extension, the accomplishments of any school inside the league carry less weight. KU’s dominance is a remarkable story, but it’d be better for the Big 12 if a serious contender emerged.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/16...#storylink=cpy

Mr_Tomahawk 03-17-2013 09:30 AM

So basically we need someone like UK, Duke, or UNC in our conference. :-)

#BLUEBLOODS

Chiefs Pantalones 03-17-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9508152)
KU’s dominance isn’t the best thing for the Big 12
March 16
BY SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

The old joke that the Big 12 is Kansas and nine other schools in football and men’s basketball isn’t so funny anymore. Not when it comes to basketball, anyway.

The Kansas Jayhawks celebrated another Big 12 tournament championship Saturday night by beating rival Kansas State, 70-54. Head Coach Bill Self talks to the media about the need for a strong Big 12 conference and KU's being a possible number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Video by: Allison Long (03-16-13)

KU’s run of dominance has long passed the point of being historical, and it remains one of the incredible stories of both college basketball and Kansas City sports over the last decade. The Jayhawks own basketball in this league like they’re charging rent, and if there was any doubt, they just beat co-regular season champion K-State for a third time — 70-54 for the conference tournament championship at Sprint Center on Saturday.

K-State won its first regular-season conference title in 36 years, and that’s a terrific accomplishment. They’ll put this on a banner at Bramlage Coliseum. But in other places, this will be another team that couldn’t beat Kansas — the last two losses by a combined 37 points.

“Oh, there’s no doubt,” K-State coach Bruce Weber said when asked about the importance of beating KU. “It’s a big rivalry, but it’s not a rivalry until we make it a rivalry. And that means beat them somewhere.”

Weber said those words from the interview room at Sprint Center, and coincidentally, in the middle of the answer came a roar from the other side of the wall. It was the KU basketball team, celebrating, again. A fact: there have been more presidential elections (five) since 1994 than K-State wins over KU (three).

The numbers are preposterous. KU has now won 47 of the last 50 against K-State. The losses are so rare they stand out naturally: Jacob Pullen’s 38 points in 2011, Michael Beasley backing up his bizarre prediction that K-State could beat KU in “Africa” in 2008, and K-State breaking KU’s 55-game home-court winning streak in 2005.

Other than that, nothing. KU’s wins over K-State come so often they should be shown in syndication.

And while this is obviously a point of pride for Kansas — KU senior Travis Releford talked of especially wanting to beat K-State — it’s also bad for the program. Honest. Take it from Jayhawks coach Bill Self.

“We need (K-State) to be good because that brings interest,” he said. “I’ve said this many times: even when Missouri was in our league, it helped us when K-State and Missouri were both good because it raised our level. We want our league to be great. We want our league to be like the Big Ten was this year. Because it raises everybody else’s level.”

We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

This isn’t a rule without exceptions, of course, but it is one that coaches feel applies more times than not. So those Little Brother chants are historically accurate, but the big picture for both KU and the Big 12 would be better in a more balanced world.

In other words, basketball in the new Big 12 has an opening for a program that can knock KU off this pedestal. Mizzou is gone, Texas is bad, Oklahoma State isn’t there quite yet, and K-State appears to have a mental block against its natural rival.

This isn’t just about a sparring partner for KU, either. Perception matters in college basketball. It matters for recruiting, for donations, for rankings, and for NCAA Tournament seeds.

And the perception is that other than KU, Big 12 basketball stinks. That’s largely a myth created by KU’s dominance. The league was mediocre this year, but in the five previous seasons it ranked third, third, first, third and second among all conferences in RPI. Between five and seven teams made the NCAA Tournament each of those seasons.

Over the last nine years, only the ACC (.631) has a higher winning percentage than the Big 12 (.608) in the NCAA Tournament. And only the ACC (77-45) and Big East (100-67) have more wins.

But that’s not the way it’s often seen nationally, or by some recruits. That line about the league being Kansas and nine other schools has a way of sticking. It wasn’t like that when Texas made the Final Four, or Oklahoma. And it won’t be like in the future, if Weber can push K-State, or Texas rebounds, or Oklahoma State continues to rise.

Until then, the league will be seen by many as something less than it is. By extension, the accomplishments of any school inside the league carry less weight. KU’s dominance is a remarkable story, but it’d be better for the Big 12 if a serious contender emerged.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/16...#storylink=cpy

Never would happen but I've always wanted KU, Duke, UNC and UK in the same conference. Don't care which one (maybe put like two teams of each of the Blue Bloods' previous conference in to even the number of teams out) but put the Blue Bloods in the same conference. It would be a BLAST. We don't really have a real rival, never have. The best programs playing each other in conference play would be awesome. Oh to dream...

DJay23 03-17-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9508164)
Never would happen but I've always wanted KU, Duke, UNC and UK in the same conference. Don't care which one (maybe put like two teams of each of the Blue Bloods' previous conference in to even the number of teams out) but put the Blue Bloods in the same conference. It would be a BLAST. We don't really have a real rival, never have. The best programs playing each other in conference play would be awesome. Oh to dream...

I like what the Champions Classic has done in bringing together sort of a round robin blue blood tournament, but only 4 teams over 3 years. I'd like to see them expand it and make it an every year thing. Sort of like a Champions League of College Basketball. You could get the conference champs from each Power 6 conference plus maybe 2 more Wild Cards and do an early season tournament. Play it at JerryWorld or someplace like (even though I hate basketball in football stadiums) with a big stage.

Mr. Laz 03-17-2013 10:11 AM

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/693...lzcqaadzdu.jpg

Ceej 03-17-2013 10:25 AM

Personally, I would be livid if UK made the tournament.

Braincase 03-17-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9508160)
So basically we need someone like UK, Duke, or UNC in our conference. :-)

#BLUEBLOODS

Are we supposed to get worse, or is it everyone else's responsibility to get better?

On a different note, I went to high school and worked at the Salina Journal with Tim Fitzgerald of Powercat Illustrated. Guess he couldn't handle the ribbing from me, so he just blocked me on twitter. I thought he was a little more thickskinned than that. Guess I was wrong.

ROYC75 03-17-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 9508151)
I prefer Kuntucky in the tournament - gets us closer in all time wins than if they make a run in the NIT.

They do not deserve it, but the possibility of a one and done, a loss and no more wins is intriguing. :thumb:

Bearcat 03-17-2013 10:55 AM

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We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.
Didn't have to go back that far to make that point... they won the conference by 4 games in 09-10, too.

ROYC75 03-17-2013 11:02 AM

BTW guys, way to root our team on yesterday! I was under the weather so to speak, 1st time I have been that sick in 15 years. I was so out of it the night before, lack of sleep when I vomited the wife gave me a phenergan and that sucker put me to sleep, missed the whole game. I woke up a couple of times momentarily, we was up both times and that is all I can recall.

Lzen 03-17-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9508267)
Personally, I would be livid if UK made the tournament.

I would love to see them miss the tournament. But I guess sedated's point makes it a little more bearable if they do make it. They certainly don't deserve it this year.

Pablo 03-17-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 9508296)
Are we supposed to get worse, or is it everyone else's responsibility to get better?

On a different note, I went to high school and worked at the Salina Journal with Tim Fitzgerald of Powercat Illustrated. Guess he couldn't handle the ribbing from me, so he just blocked me on twitter. I thought he was a little more thickskinned than that. Guess I was wrong.

'Cats are still licking their wounds.

Old Dog 03-17-2013 12:11 PM

Grats on the win last night fellas. I wish you all the best in the big one and hope ya'll get a #1 seed (you should IMO)

I didn't see any of it due to one of the biggest brain farts in the history of ever, so I can't bitch about anything and I'm just going to assume we were outplayed by the better team.
Had tickets seven rows up and was 100% sure that the game started at 6pm and never even took them out of the envelope....tuned in to listen to pregame on the way up there and it was already well underway so we said to hell with it and went to dinner with the Mrs.

Pablo 03-17-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9508579)
Grats on the win last night fellas. I wish you all the best in the big one and hope ya'll get a #1 seed (you should IMO)

I didn't see any of it due to one of the biggest brain farts in the history of ever, so I can't bitch about anything and I'm just going to assume we were outplayed by the better team.
Had tickets seven rows up and was 100% sure that the game started at 6pm and never even took them out of the envelope....tuned in to listen to pregame on the way up there and it was already well underway so we said to hell with it and went to dinner with the Mrs.

That's brutal. You didn't miss much if you were a 'Cats fan last night.

Lzen 03-17-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9508579)
Grats on the win last night fellas. I wish you all the best in the big one and hope ya'll get a #1 seed (you should IMO)

I didn't see any of it due to one of the biggest brain farts in the history of ever, so I can't bitch about anything and I'm just going to assume we were outplayed by the better team.
Had tickets seven rows up and was 100% sure that the game started at 6pm and never even took them out of the envelope....tuned in to listen to pregame on the way up there and it was already well underway so we said to hell with it and went to dinner with the Mrs.

Just admit it. You knew what was going to happen and didn't want to witness it in person. :p






Thanks for the kind words. I have no ill will toward your team, either. Don't care for Weber's comments last week but oh well. Here's to both teams doing well in the NCAA tourney. :thumb:

Old Dog 03-17-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 9508618)
That's brutal. You didn't miss much if you were a 'Cats fan last night.

I'm ALWAYS a 'Cats fan (other than the Kentucky ones....them, notsomuch). I pull for KU though. anytime they aren't playing KSU. I refuse to get into the rivalry BS whether it's basketball, football, or golf.

It's different for me though, I grew up in KS, but my degree didn't come from either one, I got it whilst in the military. I actually grew up pulling for KU, but when my daughter got a full ride scholly from KSU, I switched allegiances.

teedubya 03-17-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9508645)
I'm ALWAYS a 'Cats fan (other than the Kentucky ones....them, notsomuch). I pull for KU though. anytime they aren't playing KSU. I refuse to get into the rivalry BS whether it's basketball, football, or golf.

It's different for me though, I grew up in KS, but my degree didn't come from either one, I got it whilst in the military. I actually grew up pulling for KU, but when my daughter got a full ride scholly from KSU, I switched allegiances.

If my kid gets a full ride scholly to KSU... I'm still rooting for KU and I'll laugh at my kid every time KU beats their ass. :evil:

Old Dog 03-17-2013 01:17 PM

teedubya, check your rep messages

WilliamTheIrish 03-17-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 9508296)
Are we supposed to get worse, or is it everyone else's responsibility to get better?

On a different note, I went to high school and worked at the Salina Journal with Tim Fitzgerald of Powercat Illustrated. Guess he couldn't handle the ribbing from me, so he just blocked me on twitter. I thought he was a little more thickskinned than that. Guess I was wrong.

Fitzgerald is very much a weirdo on Twitter and in life. He blocks anybody who criticizes him or PowerTard Illustrated.

Braincase 03-17-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamInnerCircle (Post 9508882)
Fitzgerald is very much a weirdo on Twitter and in life. He blocks anybody who criticizes him or PowerTard Illustrated.

Funny thing is we go back 35 years. His sister is an EMT and was working out at the Y when I collapsed on the verge of a heart attack when I was 25 (scary shit). I just thought he could handle a little good natured ribbing, and he kind of surprised me.

Lzen 03-17-2013 04:12 PM

2nd overall #1 seed. Awesome!

Bearcat 03-17-2013 04:18 PM

Possible games vs UNC and Michigan... I like it. And the last couple of times Georgetown was in KU's region, everyone picked Georgetown, but they never made it that far.... kind of expect the same if Kansas can survive.

Old Dog 03-17-2013 04:19 PM

'Grats guys. I had you as the #3 overall behind Gonzaga and Louisville.

Pablo 03-17-2013 04:20 PM

This won't be an easy path, but I'm confident these guys are ready for this.

ROCK CHALK BABY.

Please, please give us UNC in the second round.

WilliamTheIrish 03-17-2013 04:27 PM

CATS in vs Wisconsin? ****

ArrowheadHawk 03-17-2013 04:27 PM

Time to get to work.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-17-2013 04:46 PM

Let's go.

Bearcat 03-17-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 9509139)
This won't be an easy path, but I'm confident these guys are ready for this.

ROCK CHALK BABY.

Please, please give us UNC in the second round.

Yep, I think there will be a fair amount of upset talk, which I always enjoy, and if the favorites (plus VCU) make it, motivation and effort shouldn't be lacking.

I'll have to think about tickets.... face value is ~$200/ticket, which is fine for two good games... but good god, Wisconsin? :deevee: Maybe Ole Miss will win and we'll get to see that edgy guy everyone is talking about.

Prison Bitch 03-17-2013 07:01 PM

Last 7 years for Bill Self at Kansas:

One Seed: 5
Two Seed: 1
Three Seed: 1


Absolutely mind-boggling consistency.


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