Correct, the Chiefs did want it, but it didn't become a priority until the Bills whined and whined after that game, despite the fact that the next week the Chiefs were stopped after winning the coin toss and lost the game.

Are you new here?

I actually liked the rule the way it was, even after the 2018 game. We let a QB in his mid 40’s convert 3 third and 10’s in OT on our own field without laying a finger on him. Not to mention they drove the length of the field for TD’s on each of their last 3 drives.

I prefer the sudden death finish to OT and think it takes away from game by allowing the team that gave up a TD to have a chance to score. Maybe I’m old school, but if you want to win in OT, maybe play a little defense when you have to. Unfortunately our 2018 team couldn’t do that.

Exactly my thoughts.

The game is so slanted to offenses these days.

Yeah, but people just assume it was "**** off, Chiefs" after 2018 all because the Patriots won, and "**** off, Chiefs" this past season because they won.

That outcome happened at least twice within a handful of seasons, during two of the biggest games in recent history.

I think it's logical NOT to change the rules just because something happens every blue moon, but to look at changing the rules if that thing starts happening with some regularity. I also think it's logical to not give into the first team that complains about the rules because it negatively impacted them, but to look at rules when multiple teams start complaining.

And I have no idea how that works behind the scenes with voting and what not either... if it's something that barely didn't pass before and then passed later, or if it was just a unilateral decision by someone.

I just feel like it's more complicated than "**** you, Chiefs" and east coast bias.

Just like a lot of this crap, where every team's message board is loaded with "our team got ****ed", when really only the Bengals should be saying that at all (beyond the NFL not following their own rules, of course).

Sure it could have, the shouldn't have flown home at 3AM and played on Tuesday, or easily could have played on Wednesday, the flight is only 78 minutes...

They used the situation to their advantage, as again, if they were up 17 they would have "logistically" found a way to get up the courage and finish the game... period. The Bengals really got screwed and that's not right.

I think if anything, this is motivation for the NFL to never let a game go unplayed again (if at all possible). This was a shitshow.

I really wish the NFL would listen to me and give the ball to the team that has HFA, and get rid of coin flips (and maybe even kickoffs all together), but sadly a moderator position on an unofficial Chiefs site isn't enough to get support.


I guess until they start with the neutral site playoff games... :doh!:

Yeah, some always want to throw out the "setting precedence" for this one thing that's happened once in NFL history in this very specific manner of being late season with playoff implications, etc.... but, hopefully it goes the other way and shines a light on how important it is to have and follow processes.

No team wants to be in the Bengals' shoes and flipping a coin, or potentially in the Chiefs' shoes playing at a neutral site... hopefully that puts some pressure on fixing the shit for the future.

They robbed KC of the 5th Annual Mahomes Invitational...

I must stop there or I'll say something that strongly reflects how I feel about that. It's a ugly thing to say too.

The NFL now has a precedent to move a CCG to a neutral site if they deem it necessary.

Heres the problem with this conspiracy and all others concerning the NFL towards the Chiefs makes no sense....... Mahomes = ratings. He's exciting to watch. He's never on TMZ doing stupid shit. The guy is a walking embodiment of what the shield want in their players.

Why would the NFL push their money maker out of the way?

Typical CP.

Let's all bitch and moan about AFCCG HF being "taken" from us when it hasn't even happened yet, and there are double the amount of scenarios in which we would play at Arrowhead instead of a neutral site.

You people live miserable ****ing lives.

What did you guys do to Patriot fans to make them hate you so much? All they want is a situation that screws the Chiefs lol.

https://i.ibb.co/jyZgJjQ/1-AB08126-D...2714607-C3.jpg

This is a solid, A+ post. Possibly the best of the entire thread.

I’d also like to point out that it’s possible that the neutral site never happens as the Bills haven’t exactly looked good even though they’ve won 6 straight. Outside of the Bears game, they’re scraping together wins. And the injuries to Von Miller and Hamlin make it no easier. So who knows, it’s very possible they’re knocked out before the AFCCG and the game is still at Arrowhead.

Their anger is our joy. I assume they’re mad because they are totally irrelevant to us and everyone else now that their boy kissing QB is gone.

When other QBs beat him, it props them up and is good for competitive balance. Pretty simple, actually.

They don’t want him out of the spotlight, they just don’t want him winning the AFC every single year. It’s bad for overall business. They have 4 legit superstar QBs in this conference now. They have to maximize the star power of all of them.

For a compelling sub plot, because they can bring him back at any time.

They hate Mahomes.

They hate us for 2019

We beat Brady more than the Bills and Bengals did, and won more in the playoffs. That’s the honest truth, we are probably the main team they want to see go down. It’s been this way ever since we got Mahomes. They hate that we overcame them in the AFC.

I'm confused:
-"They couldn't (finish the game)...": they could have, they left town and chose not to.

-"The NFL HAS RULES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED...that 100% favored the Chiefs"

-"The Chiefs came out well ahead here"...debatable and unknowable. In light of #2 especially, the ire of Chief fans is perfectly understandable. RULES...WERE...IN...PLACE, and yes, for this scenario. I was watching the game where Darryl Stingley was paralyzed. I remember well the Belcher murder-suicide. Face it, the NFL was too afraid of social media backlash, and MADE shit up on the fly...it is their prerogative to do so, it is our prerogative as THE CUSTOMER to both question the motives and the wisdom of that decision. Since we have a playoff team and a generational QB, we will continue to watch, and continue to spend our deflated currency on this debacle, and watching cheffers turn our games into porn; bitching and challenging the league's stupidity is valid and all we have.

Yeah, but that's just writing a fan fiction narrative to play victim after things have happened.

Brady wins every other Super Bowl for 20 years... east coast bias, doing whatever it takes to keep Brady winning SBs, etc.

Chiefs don't win every other SB... well, they need to spread the love, it's bad for business having one QB win all the time....

The number of times people say "the NFL wants..." around here, you'd think half the board hangs out with Roger on the weekends.

I think it's pretty much only the last part... I'm sure they hated hearing about "the next Brady" for 20 years, every time some QB was coming out of the draft.

And then Mahomes comes along and everyone is saying screw the next Brady, this guy is way better... yeah, I'm sure that chapped their asses.

It's very similar around here, some people hate any comparison to Mahomes and it's something we'll be reading about until he retires.

That is a fair point and totally makes sense.... Except at the media's reaction after that game this past postseason. It was consistently lines of "The Bills got cheated", "I can't believe this happened and this needs to change now" and just the recency bias accompanied with the blatant disregard of it happening to the Chiefs. There were very few stories or support of the same situation in 2018 in what quite frankly was a more important game being the Championship game and not the divisional. When the Chiefs suggested it, it couldn't even get enough support to make a vote on it. Then with the media reaction and East Coast push, it flew into the rule book quicker than Joshy's smile disappearing after the 13 seconds.

As others have pointed out, they need stories other than Mahomes being a SB favorite too frequently. They can make money by keeping him relevant without pushing hard. He is that kind of a unicorn.
NFL has gone out of their way to hand favorable conditions to the Bills. Wonder if that is related to them being a runaway preseason favorite :hmmm:. The league will do a lot to keep narratives alive and the ensuing coverage and money that come with those, Mahomes or not.

If I'm a patriots fan I'd still hold Brady's ACL tear against the Chiefs as well

NFL about to "find" some racist Zac Taylor emails

There was plenty of talk about it, as a whole helluva lot of people hate the Patriots... there were probably MORE people rooting for the Chiefs to knock off Brady and the Patriots than there was for any given side of Chiefs/Bills.

True, nobody knows which team will be first to win a postseason game in OT after losing coin toss and giving up a TD on the original possession.

I know that the least sympathetic loser of a postseason game in OT ever, is going to be the one that wins the OT coin toss, takes the ball, scores a TD, kicks off to other team, gives up a TD and goes on to lose.

There were a few scattered about no doubt. Go do a google or yahoo search on "Chiefs Patriots overtime loss" and "Chiefs Bills overtime loss" and tell me which one you have to cipher through more to find these articles. I would post all of the links but I am not that invested in this as this is just my opinion.

The thing that pisses me off is if the Bengals get to the AFCCG the game it is being played at a neutral site because they had a 1% of getting first. If the Chiefs and kitties make it it should be played in Arrowhead as the Bengals have 4 losses regardless.

The only way that would be a neutral site game is if the Chiefs lose and Bengals win this weekend.

It's only at a neutral site if the Bengals, Raiders, and Patriots all win this weekend... because that's the only scenario (plus had the Bengals beaten the Bills) that would have put the game in Cincy.

How is this so complicated to understand?!? Holy ****balls

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Exactly.

It's the natural outcome of "making shit up"...it's why "rules" and "protocols" were invented in the first place.

The narrative just twists to whatever is convenient for them. It's amazing. I personally support the narrative the refs are garbage. The idea that the NFL doesn't love Mahomes and is against the Chiefs is kind of hilarious after all the years of claiming that QB's like Manning and Brady get every break. Yet we have one equal to that and the league is actively plotting against us?

The issue is the Bills told us to go **** ourselves when we proposed the rule change. They didn't care. But then it happens to THEM, and they're the ones who now want the change? And the NFL GIVES IT TO THEM????

There are plenty of examples of a team never getting to possess the ball in OT. That's how the rule was designed. Why now is it unfair? Josh Allen was seriously the last straw for them?

No, I'm not saying the NFL is deliberately out to get KC. I'm saying they're a bunch of wishy washy morons who allow singular events to sway their principles, completely ignoring the spirit of the rules they wrote in the first place.

The whole point of sudden death OT was to keep OT as short as possible and try to prevent ties. Those are good priorities to keep for the rule. It got a little TOO arbitrary when high powered offenses can just kick a field goal, though, so they went to the TD on first possession model. Keeps things more fair and still tries to limit ties and long OT periods. Now just because Joshy boy sucks at calling coin tosses, they're going to say, "**** it. Play as long as you want. Get good tired and injured! Both QBs get the ball!" One event completely changed their priorities for determining OT. And that shit happens all the time with the league.

Random tidbit for next year. Buffalo has to travel to both Cincy and KC in the regular season next year and KC also gets Cincy at Arrowhead.

I can't believe there are Chiefs fans that need this explained to them.

What's especially interesting is that Buffalo is a division rival of the Patriots and still voted against KC on that overtime proposal back in 2019. You would have thought the AFC East teams would vote against the Patriots, but nope. Somehow Bob Kraft had all of them under a spell.

1000%

I'll add that there is clear bias toward teams in the eastern time zone. You could argue against that statement, but you'd be wrong.

Reading comprehension is hard when triplet toddlers are screaming. Thank you for clearing it up.

Oh don't worry. If we make it to the AFCCG and it's being moved to a neutral field, I'll have plenty or rage left in the tank to unload onto an unsuspecting internet.

Well, yeah... we currently need a ****ing spreadsheet to figure out where playoff games will be played.

And that was my point, there are other factors besides "OMG THE NFL HATES THE CHIEFS!!!" which so many people default to, here or for their own team.

Without rules, there’s chaos- Cosmo Kramer

"Hate" is a strong word in this context. "Not enjoying the next dynasty being smack dab in the middle of flyover country" might be a little more accurate.

Yea, I bet being the day care provider for petegz, wisconsin chief and ARROW2 can make understanding concepts pretty difficult.

You have my sympathy. While you're here, can you explain winning percentage to them? Good luck.

Indianapolis refuses to host AFCCG due to a "busy convention month".

https://www.wtoc.com/2023/01/07/repo...pionship-game/

No one can yet explain why a league which supposedly rigged everything for years for its most bankable stars, even one in Indianapolis, is now supposedly conspiring every minute to suppress and ruin the hopes of its most bankable new(ish) star.

When did the Bills tell us to go **** ourselves exactly?

You do realize the Chiefs’ proposal was never even voted on because it was clear it wouldn’t have the support of at least 24 of the owners?

How do you know the Bills weren’t one of a group of, say, 16 teams that was in favor?

I’m gonna guess what the answer is: you don’t know. You have no idea. You’ve created a narrative in your mind that’s false without even knowing how it played out.

I like the Vegas idea. It's a good vacation place for everyone involved, including the potential of a Cincy & KC neutral site game. Buffalo, Cincy, & KC fans can all enjoy some time out of the winter zone in a warm weather, sunshine place like Vegas with a lot of fun stuff to do.

You've kind of been full of piss and vinegar lately. Everything alright?

It was an honest mistake. I could have sworn Mike Florio/PFT made a big deal out of the Bills' proposal back when it was in discussion and getting voted on.

I apologize, dude. There’s just so much anger being thrown at the Bills team when I’m not convinced they’ve literally done anything to deserve it.

Their fans? Absolutely **** them. But I don’t think the team has done anything to deserve such vitriol.

I still love you.

I also could have sworn it was known that Bills were one of 2 teams that voted against the Chiefs proposal. Maybe it wasn't an official vote?

If only 2 teams voted against it, it would’ve passed. They don’t seek unanimity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...et-possession/

Good. **** that stadium. Bad juju.

Interesting how many teams voted for this neutral site, but it feels like most don’t want to host it.

Bills voted against it first time......

Good, no one wants to go to that shithole.

Was it known if the Bills had been against it? Perhaps that's where that idea came from.

So Kansas City Chiefs, the League would like to inform you that your game with the Denver Broncos has been cancelled and will not be made up and this game will not count as far as your season standings.

Yes, some sport pundits have pointed out that this is eerily reminiscent of the 2022 situation with Buffalo, where Buffalo didn't entirely lose the #1 seeding because the League ruled a potential AFC championship game between KC and Buffalo would be at a neutral site.

But Buffalo had the benefit of millions and millions of TV viewers watching a traumatic event on TV and you didn't.

So even though Vegas sport's betting think you were a 80% favorite over the helpless Donkeys, we are sticking to our rules and your season will have one less game which will likely make the Chargers the Division winners and you guys will be a Wild card.

But hey, we can't go changing the rules wily nily, that would be a bad precedent after all...

Pioli is that you? lolz

Some of the taking heads make it sound like kc is going to a neutral site regardless of Buffalos and Cincinnatis records. Are we missing something or are they stupid? The one that stood out to me was rich eisen.

They are stupid.

Everyone's kind of assuming all three teams win this weekend. If any of us lose, any chances of HFA go away for that team.

(And all of the scenarios are in the OP.)

https://i.imgur.com/RwizRJb.jpg

JFC. No. They did not.

Are you an idiot? A clueless ****ing moron?

It was never voted on. Three years later that guy is speculating that the Bills didn’t “seem” to want it because it was never even voted on. But that’s because it would’ve required 24 owners to approve.

Nice try though!

The Bills formulated the New Coke recipe

I didn't say it went to a vote you dumb ****. It didn't go to a vote because it had absolutely no support.

Funny how quickly it went from having no support to getting 24 owners to approve.

Just like your "how do you know the Bills didn't want to play the game?" bullshit, you can't read between the lines.

Just a bunch of butthurt coastal big city assholes seething over the possibility of the Chiefs hosting yet another AFCCG.

Rich Eisen is such a hack... almost crying yesterday that the Bills would have had to resume the game exactly at the spot where Damar collapsed, even after they knew that he was stabilized and improving...

Some of you guys seem to live your lives in a constant state of... https://media4.giphy.com/media/l1yA7...giphy.gif&ct=g

Wow, lighten up Francis...

LMAOLMAO