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crossbow 01-25-2005 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
You can't, which is why you do the best you can when you have some control and let her live her life. If you're an overbearing control freak with your children, you will not win. I lived the evidence of that.

So true. If you raised 'em right, you got no issues like this by the time they are 15 years old. A little rebellion is good too. So I don't freak when it happens. Its just their way of building confidence before they take on the responsibiliy of adulthood.

Rausch 01-25-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief
Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

Threaten to sell her into prostitution. And if that doesn't work, lock her in her room and make her listen to "Wham" until she breaks...

Hammock Parties 01-25-2005 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray
He's been here since 2001.

YOU are the noob.

Indeed.

PastorMikH 01-25-2005 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief
Pastor Mike, We've only spent about 6 months every 4 years in the States over the last 29 years ... talking about rude awaking in fashion .... or is it lack of fashion? Shocking!!!

Someone mentioned it is no worse than a swim suit. I can't believe how little "decent" girls wear these days. But, I guess from a practical point of view ... if it's okay in the pool/beach why is it not okay at the prom.

Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????


Actually, on the swimsuit bit. First off, granted I'm not in as many locations to see such things, but I haven't seen swimsuits quite like that. Second of all, Proms are supposed to be formal affairs, I have difficulty thinking that something that revealing would be acceptable in a formal setting.

As for allowing the daughter to wear/preventing her from wearing it. First, prevention starts when they are young. My 12 year old already has a modest mindset and will make comments of dissaproval as to how other girls her age dress. Secondly, if I'm buying a dress that costs several hundred and upward, if I don't like it, I'm not paying for it.

Manila-Chief 01-25-2005 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
Actually, on the swimsuit bit. First off, granted I'm not in as many locations to see such things, but I haven't seen swimsuits quite like that. Second of all, Proms are supposed to be formal affairs, I have difficulty thinking that something that revealing would be acceptable in a formal setting.

As for allowing the daughter to wear/preventing her from wearing it. First, prevention starts when they are young. My 12 year old already has a modest mindset and will make comments of dissaproval as to how other girls her age dress. Secondly, if I'm buying a dress that costs several hundred and upward, if I don't like it, I'm not paying for it.

When we arrived here girls would wear jeans and pull over shirts over their swim wear. They were ultra modest. Now??? I guess they have seen too many American movies and T.V. shows. I don't go swimming often but just walking by the pool at the Polo Club causes a red face at times. There was a multi-national swim team there once.... rather revealing... The 80 year old M.D. who invited us was eating it up.

But, mostly my info comes from watching T.V. programs and movie reviews.

I fully agree about raising them correctly. Thankfuly my daughter was raised over here while the culture was more modest. But, having had 3 kids go through the teen years ... well, rebellion does set in at times!!!

cdcox 01-25-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief
Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

If you wait till an offending piece of clothing is in the household to express your opinion for the first time, it is too late. My 14 year old daughter would not choose to wear such a dress because we have clearly communicated our values and expectations and she resepects me and my wife enough to value our approval. Our family has talked about clothing issues (and many other far more significant issues) for years. As a result, she has a pretty good idea what is appropriate or not in the way of clothing. If a shirt is made of too thin material, she will just leave it in the store. She somtimes wears shorts and skirts that I think are too skimpy, but on the other hand we have also sent clothing that is too low cut back to the store. We try to strike a balance everyone can live with. Establish the criteria when they first become interested in clothing and be consistent.

Overall, talk to your kids early and often, let them know the expectations in your family, be flexible when possible, and show that you trust them as long as they don't betray the trust. Give them freedom as they are able to handle it. If you have been consistent in your message of love, looking out for their interests, support, family values, etc, all that parenting won't count for nothing in the face of peer pressure and their own hormones.

We still have many years of adolescence to survive, and I'm sure we will hit our share of rough patches in the years to come. Come what may, I think our family will deal with these challenges better having spent so much time and effort in building our family relationships consistently during her early years.

PastorMikH 01-25-2005 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox
Overall, talk to your kids early and often, let them know the expectations in your family, be flexible when possible, and show that you trust them as long as they don't betray the trust. Give them freedom as they are able to handle it. If you have been consistent in your message of love, looking out for their interests, support, family values, etc, all that parenting won't count for nothing in the face of peer pressure and their own hormones.


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stevieray 01-25-2005 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=cdcox]
If you have been consistent in your message of love, looking out for their interests, support, family values, etc, all that parenting won't count for nothing in the face of peer pressure and their own hormones.

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I'm assuming you meant to say haven't been consistent.

Inspector 01-25-2005 11:57 PM

I have 5 sons.

But, I wouldn't let their wives wear that.

Actually, I have no say in the matter.

I probably shouldn't have even posted on this thread.

ChiefsCountry 01-26-2005 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by David.
heh, my prom date wore something like that.

I wish mine did.

memyselfI 01-26-2005 07:58 AM

No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:

RNR 01-26-2005 08:08 AM

If your daughter wants to wear that dress, you got bigger problems than the prom.

the Talking Can 01-26-2005 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:

you could loan her a burka...

PastorMikH 01-26-2005 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI
No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:


I doubt the schools are all that concerned, after all, they refuse to teach abstinence-based methods but make condoms readily available.

memyselfI 01-26-2005 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH
I doubt the schools are all that concerned, after all, they refuse to teach abstinence-based methods but make condoms readily available.


:rolleyes:

Give me a fuggin break. This dress would not pass 99% of the dress codes in schools who have them and implement them...and most of those schools are not routinely handing out condoms to anyone. :rolleyes:


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