Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 4705503)

IMHO, a 4-3 team will be better off with Harvey than Gholston. Gholston is a top 15 pick because of his workouts, not because of game film.[/QUOTE]

So his two sacks on Jake Long where he just destroyed Long really doesn't matter, I mean Jake long isn't very good right? Every one of his knocks have been posted in this thread about 10 times over. You can find negatives on any player out there. You act as if Gholston was some scrub who just went to the combine put up some good numbers and vaulted himself in the first round. If you didn't hear Gholstons name throughout the season then you either dont watch college football or dont listen to any talk radio. He isnt some flash in the pan.

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4705506)

Well what? You can make an excuse for anything. I could say well he didn't dominate because he was just one piece of the best defense in the country last year. Rated either first or second in 11 defensive categories, he played with arguably the best LB and CB in the country. He played on a line that was very deep, and our defense was very good at stopping the run. Did you even watch the BCS, Gholston pressured Flynn all night and was double teamed all night as well. Like I previously stated Flynn did a heck of a job avoiding sacks and getting rid of the ball. So since Dorsey didn't dominate the BCS game either should we not pick him because he didn't have 20 tackles and 10 sacks like you think anyone buddy who is good on the line should get?

You were border line lame with half of the stuff you posted earlier in this thread, and now your just lame. We get the point you don't like Gholston and think he is very overrated, you said what you thought, and everyone knows what you think. So now if you could do us a favor and shut up about it, you would be a lot less annoying.

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4705539)

That first part reminds me of Sims. Benifiting from great players around him.

So what are you saying at the bottom? Sit down and STFU if you dont like Gholston, but those of you who have a hard on for him are free to speak?:shake:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4705506)

Well what? You can make an excuse for anything. I could say well he didn't dominate because he was just one piece of the best defense in the country last year. Rated either first or second in 11 defensive categories, he played with arguably the best LB and CB in the country. He played on a line that was very deep, and our defense was very good at stopping the run. Did you even watch the BCS, Gholston pressured Flynn all night and was double teamed all night as well. Like I previously stated Flynn did a heck of a job avoiding sacks and getting rid of the ball. So since Dorsey didn't dominate the BCS game either should we not pick him because he didn't have 20 tackles and 10 sacks like you think anyone buddy who is good on the line should get?

You were border line lame with half of the stuff you posted earlier in this thread, and now your just lame. We get the point you don't like Gholston and think he is very overrated, you said what you thought, and everyone knows what you think. So now if you could do us a favor and shut up about it, you would be a lot less annoying.

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4705543)

There isn't anyone within 100 light years of Julius Peppers' talent on the OSU dline playing with Gholston. LBs and CBs are extremely talented, but LBs and CBs benefit from stellar DL play much more than a DE/DT benefits from great LB or secondary play.

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 4699640)

is Ghoulston really the next Merriman?

seems like after Merriman, everyone is searching for the next "Merriman" and guys who aren't as good have their value inflated..wasn't Merriman the #17-ish pick?

same with Adrien Peterson...because of him people are hot for McFadden when there is little reason or evidence to draft any RB that high...

I'd still much rather have Ellis than Ghoulston, if we aren't going to take Ryan....simply based on the value of their positions and wanting to finally shore up the middle of our defense

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4705539)

That first part reminds me of Sims. Benifiting from great players around him.

So what are you saying at the bottom? Sit down and STFU if you dont like Gholston, but those of you who have a hard on for him are free to speak?:shake:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705579)

Gholston is a much better prospect than Merriman.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705579)

Gholston is a much better prospect than Merriman.

Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4705559)

Why are you so bitter at someone going against your beloved buckeye player? I am not afraid to admit when there is a MU Tiger that is good, but over-rated. Why can't O$U fans admit that.

So lame is stating raw facts, I guess it would have been better if it would have been put in proper context, right? or is lame just not thinking the same way you do regarding O$U football?



And that is what the Chiefs were trying to do with all of the drafting of the d-linemen in the last 3 - 4 years, they just were successful in executing thier plan successfully.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4705592)

Im thinking you want gholston at #5, who else would you rather have if we don't pick him

I like the potential he offers

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705593)

I want to know how Gholston's stock is elevated by those shitty teams he played against like Michigan and Wisconsin, where he had a combined 7 sacks.

Boy, those D-III programs really inflated his numbers.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705601)

I took him at #1 in our CP mock draft. After that I'd go this way:

Dorsey
Ellis
C. Long
Ryan
Keith Rivers
Chris Williams
Shoot myself in the face
Ryan Clady
Branden Albert

Originally Posted by melbar (Post 4705539)

That first part reminds me of Sims. Benifiting from great players around him.

So what are you saying at the bottom? Sit down and STFU if you dont like Gholston, but those of you who have a hard on for him are free to speak?:shake:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4705598)

You seriously are a joke, I think you posted one post that actually had stats in it. Once again I dont give a rats ass if you dont like Gholston. I would just appreciate if I didn't have to treat you like an ADD kid and give you attention everytime you post something new and then say WELL? Maybe I should write in crayon so you can follow with me better, would that be more benficial to you?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4705593)

I want to know how Gholston's stock is elevated by those shitty teams he played against like Michigan and Wisconsin, where he had a combined 7 sacks.

Boy, those D-III programs really inflated his numbers.