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Prince22 04-24-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4707884)
Yes he does, we argued about it forever.

That's hilarious. But on the subject of UK wide recievers, I'd love to have Stevie Johnson or Kennan Burton. I know I have my Blue shades on but these two will be a bargain. I worry about Kennan's health issues but I'd love to get Stevie late in the draft. He's a leader in the locker room

banyon 04-24-2008 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince22 (Post 4707870)
NCAA record 325 consecutive pass attempts without an interception, 61% completion percentage, SEC record 40 passing TD's and yet only one person here as even mentioned Andre Woodson.

Draft him in the 3rd and sit for a year and we got ourselves a steal.

I could accept Woodson. I hear a lot of people knock his release, but he's kind of the Anti-Joe Flacco, he managed to deliver passes against the best pass rushers and CB's in college, so I'm not worried as much that he'd be overwhelmed.

Prince22 04-24-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon (Post 4707903)
I could accept Woodson. I hear a lot of people knock his release, but he's kind of the Anti-Joe Flacco, he managed to deliver passes against the best pass rushers and CB's in college, so I'm not worried as much that he'd be overwhelmed.

There's no question about it, he has a slow release. Thats why he needs to sit and learn his first year wherever he goes. And with our rebuilding of the offensive line, it would make sense. But then again, who the hell is he going to learn from? I honestly see him going to the Jags. I'd be OK with that.

Micjones 04-24-2008 11:07 PM

I'm salivating at the chance to draft either Ryan, Brohm or Henne.

JBucc 04-24-2008 11:28 PM

You can never tell who might have a great year and shoot up, but yeah next year's QB class looks pitiful. If we really have no faith in Brodie a QB this year really is a must, from Herm's POV. I don't even think Stafford or Tebow will come out next year. After that things get better with the aforementioned Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez.

Then of course in 2011, maybe 12 the next generation of NFL QB's begins with
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UncleChief83 04-24-2008 11:29 PM

next years QB class wont be better. Tebow is ok, but he doesnt have the same fundamentals as Ryan. Ryan is built to be a pro QB and has great mechanics, it would be harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL i believe.

I wanted to point out...Hell, im from Fresno, CA and i have seen first hand a great college QB in David Carr who couldnt adjust to the NFL. Carr was an awesome QB in college, but sometimes you have to go after QBs who have the fundamentals over QBs who had great college years and stats. Almost like Vince Young, great college QB, but an ok pro player.

hope some of you agree with me

stlchiefs 04-25-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleChief83 (Post 4707948)

I wanted to point out...Hell, im from Fresno, CA and i have seen first hand a great college QB in David Carr who couldnt adjust to the NFL. Carr was an awesome QB in college, but sometimes you have to go after QBs who have the fundamentals over QBs who had great college years and stats. Almost like Vince Young, great college QB, but an ok pro player.

hope some of you agree with me

Yep, this is where the scouts need to be able to evaluate how the player's skills will translate to the pro game. If a team gets this wrong with an early pick it can screw them for a number of years. That's the last thing the Chiefs need right now, we're already screwed for a number of years as it is and don't need anymore tacked on to that.

SBK 04-25-2008 01:06 AM

Personally I like Brohm of the big QB prospects, but I'm not an expert on any of them. I have seen Henne a lot and I see Grbackup when I watch him. He never impressed me at all....

PhillyChiefFan 04-25-2008 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleChief83 (Post 4707948)
next years QB class wont be better. Tebow is ok, but he doesnt have the same fundamentals as Ryan. Ryan is built to be a pro QB and has great mechanics, it would be harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL i believe.

I wanted to point out...Hell, im from Fresno, CA and i have seen first hand a great college QB in David Carr who couldnt adjust to the NFL. Carr was an awesome QB in college, but sometimes you have to go after QBs who have the fundamentals over QBs who had great college years and stats. Almost like Vince Young, great college QB, but an ok pro player.

hope some of you agree with me

First off, welcome to the planet!
I would agree with you. That is why I like Ryan, Brohm, and to a lesser extent Henne. Flacco is a flash in the pan, IMO. But I'm sure someone somewhere said that about Jerry Rice as a receiver. Course there was another Delaware QB that we had, and he did pretty well for us...

Mecca 04-25-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4708110)
First off, welcome to the planet!
I would agree with you. That is why I like Ryan, Brohm, and to a lesser extent Henne. Flacco is a flash in the pan, IMO. But I'm sure someone somewhere said that about Jerry Rice as a receiver. Course there was another Delaware QB that we had, and he did pretty well for us...

Rice didn't transfer out because he couldn't beat out another player like Flacco did.

stlchiefs 04-25-2008 02:37 PM

Flacco pulled a Trent Green ala 2007 offseason.

muddyjello 04-25-2008 02:43 PM

I like Chad Henne.

Dave Lane 04-25-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter (Post 4707498)
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Damn, I hope not. I consider Henne the second coming of Drew Henson.

I agree. It also worries me he had the best LT in football guarding his blind side and that had to pad his stats.

Dave

eazyb81 04-25-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4708110)
First off, welcome to the planet!
I would agree with you. That is why I like Ryan, Brohm, and to a lesser extent Henne. Flacco is a flash in the pan, IMO. But I'm sure someone somewhere said that about Jerry Rice as a receiver. Course there was another Delaware QB that we had, and he did pretty well for us...

Weren't you the one saying we didn't need a QB this year because next year's class was full of QBs and we need to give Brodie a chance?

Mr. Kotter 04-25-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 4709107)
I agree. It also worries me he had the best LT in football guarding his blind side and that had to pad his stats.

Dave

If they are thinking Henne, I hope someone else grabs him before we do....I'd just as soon take Booty a bit later if we are going to hedge our bets on Croyle.


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