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Valiant 04-25-2008 12:47 PM

Am I looking at his game log correctly?? He has never played an entire season yet?? And if we do want him, won't he want a new contract??

And if the injuries are minor, I would actually say go for it.. A stud LT would help Brodie and LJ greatly..

The Bad Guy 04-25-2008 12:48 PM

If this is the case, the Chiefs would truly rebuild overnight with a move like this.

Brown, Waters, Niswanger, Albert and McIntosh is 1000000x better than anything we could have hoped for.

I'm amazed they'd give up this much to get Ellis.

HemiEd 04-25-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 4708411)
After this year, Chiefs fans will have their own version of the Jets draft day Youtube...

The meltdown this year is going to be priceless...

Time to pop up some popcorn, this is going to be good!

This is the Super Bowl! The Chiefs are the stars!

Valiant 04-25-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 4708815)
Please let these trade details be true.

I would take this deal in run with it, no question about it. We need a good proven Left Tackle and Jammal Brown is one and then we can draft Branden Albert to play Right Guard, and then get a Defensive End or Cornerback at # 17.

But this deal just seems to good to be true. Hopefully this gets done on draft day, cause if does then it would be a great trade. Last time we traded with the Saints we got Willie Roaf, hopefully this time this guy will make it a good trade too.

There's just no way you can pass this trade up, sorry to the guys that want Chris Long, even if he is on the board I wouldnt pass up on taking this trade. Same goes for Vernon Gholston.

Jammal Brown is a sure fire talent that you cant just let pass you by if he is offered, I believe if this deal has some truth to it, then on draft day if the Saints wanna move up to # 5 to get Sedrick Ellis then they will make this deal.

Or hypothetically do this before the draft or during if the Rams do not select him and use our 10 and 17 to jump back up into the 3rd or 4th spot with Falcons or Raiders.. Hopefully the Falcons.. This would give a LT and another elite player hopefully..

Frosty 04-25-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 4708699)
:eek: I can't remember the last time a player has shot up the charts like Albert has.

Danger danger! Warning, Will Robinson!

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HemiEd 04-25-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4708729)
Albert is shooting up so fast that he'd better be careful. He might rocket past the #1 pick in this draft and end up in the 7th round of last year's draft.

ROFL

tomahawk kid 04-25-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 4708824)
If this is the case, the Chiefs would truly rebuild overnight with a move like this.

Brown, Waters, Niswanger, Albert and McIntosh is 1000000x better than anything we could have hoped for.

I'm amazed they'd give up this much to get Ellis.

And that's assuming we don't take another center in Rds 3-4, which I'm almost certain we will.

Brock 04-25-2008 01:30 PM

Why would the Saints trade away a franchise left tackle? Somthing stinks.

Rain Man 04-25-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4708915)
Why would the Saints trade away a franchise left tackle? Somthing stinks.

Yeah, that's too good a deal. Something tells me that Brown is either a) playing on an artificial leg, b) expecting Bill Gates money, or c) plans to join the Merchant Marine when his contract ends.

Anyong Bluth 04-25-2008 01:39 PM

I'd love this deal.

You get Brown & still have 2 1st round picks. I'd take Albert at 10. I know he's moving up the board and all, but I'd feel a bit uneasy taking him at 5- seeing as how most teams are looking at switching him over to OT from guard.
We can't move past 10 really, but you know that Denver and other teams after 10 are going to be taking O-line. But I think at 10 you can still get Albert, possibly a different O-lineman or D-lineman.

I am starting to think that we should definitely take one of the other QB's with our 2nd. If Brody doesn't pan out this next year, and we tank, we will most likely have a top 3 pick next year, and the QB's next year from what I've seen aren't nearly as good. People can debate which one of the QB's they'd want besides Ryan, but I think I'd love to grab Brohm if we can get him in the 2nd. The guy was on everyone's board for so long as the top QB prospect and I think he has all the tools to be a very good QB. It's a good idea to give Brody some competition, as well as having some insurance, instead of feeling like we're going to have to use our very high 1st rounder on a QB next year- when the prospects coming out aren't looking to be as good as this year.

Moving back in this draft and picking up more picks for this year is a great idea in my mind. While its obvious that this years draft is fairly weak at the top of blue chip guys, it's also extremely deep with a lot of quality players that would probably go higher in other years. So if you can get better value in a number of players instead of sticking pat at #5 to get more choices or what not, it makes a lot more sense that trying to justify giving #5 pick money to a guy that probably isn't worth that sort of money- be it drafting for need or BPA.

Sign me up for trading picks with the Saints at 5 to 10: Taking Albert or maybe Harvey at 10 & getting Brown.

At 17: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie maybe??? Probably the top CB in the draft and may still be on the board- you have a need area and get the best CB debatably... welcome to other's suggestion.

Round 2: Brohm, kinda reminds me of Marino. Not the most mobile pocket passer, but has solid frame, height, mechanics, high release point, and his completion percentage is much better than the other 1 & 2nd round guys. People worry about his arm strength, I think he's got enough mustard to be fine and who really thinks were gonna be dropping deep bombs all that often under Herm. Didn't they say that Montana also had a weak arm?

ShortRoundChief 04-25-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement (Post 4708935)
I'd love this deal.

You get Brown & still have 2 1st round picks. I'd take Albert at 10. I know he's moving up the board and all, but I'd feel a bit uneasy taking him at 5- seeing as how most teams are looking at switching him over to OT from guard.
We can't move past 10 really, but you know that Denver and other teams after 10 are going to be taking O-line. But I think at 10 you can still get Albert, possibly a different O-lineman or D-lineman.

I am starting to think that we should definitely take one of the other QB's with our 2nd. If Brody doesn't pan out this next year, and we tank, we will most likely have a top 3 pick next year, and the QB's next year from what I've seen aren't nearly as good. People can debate which one of the QB's they'd want besides Ryan, but I think I'd love to grab Brohm if we can get him in the 2nd. The guy was on everyone's board for so long as the top QB prospect and I think he has all the tools to be a very good QB. It's a good idea to give Brody some competition, as well as having some insurance, instead of feeling like we're going to have to use our very high 1st rounder on a QB next year- when the prospects coming out aren't looking to be as good as this year.

Moving back in this draft and picking up more picks for this year is a great idea in my mind. While its obvious that this years draft is fairly weak at the top of blue chip guys, it's also extremely deep with a lot of quality players that would probably go higher in other years. So if you can get better value in a number of players instead of sticking pat at #5 to get more choices or what not, it makes a lot more sense that trying to justify giving #5 pick money to a guy that probably isn't worth that sort of money- be it drafting for need or BPA.

Sign me up for trading picks with the Saints at 5 to 10: Taking Albert or maybe Harvey at 10 & getting Brown.

At 17: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie maybe??? Probably the top CB in the draft and may still be on the board- you have a need area and get the best CB debatably... welcome to other's suggestion.

Round 2: Brohm, kinda reminds me of Marino. Not the most mobile pocket passer, but has solid frame, height, mechanics, high release point, and his completion percentage is much better than the other 1 & 2nd round guys. People worry about his arm strength, I think he's got enough mustard to be fine and who really thinks were gonna be dropping deep bombs all that often under Herm. Didn't they say that Montana also had a weak arm?


agree with everything but the qb,
I think brodies the guy and if he can't do it they were pretty high on thigpen

SBK 04-25-2008 01:53 PM

I'd do this trade for the LT, the #10 and the Saints #1 next year. Otherwise I think I take Gholston with my 5 spot and a LT with my 17.

Don't see why NO would be shopping a pro-bowl LT.....smells fishy.

Coogs 04-25-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 4708944)
they were pretty high on thigpen

Does this scare anyone besides me?

ShortRoundChief 04-25-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 4708966)
Does this scare anyone besides me?


doesn't scare me

Direckshun 04-25-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBK (Post 4708963)
I'd do this trade for the LT, the #10 and the Saints #1 next year. Otherwise I think I take Gholston with my 5 spot and a LT with my 17.

Don't see why NO would be shopping a pro-bowl LT.....smells fishy.

Character concern and his play trailed off. Plus he'll be demanding a payday before long.

I'm almost certain the Chiefs will pass. They want picks, not players.


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