Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4750296)

Take off the homer glasses. Are you seriously saying he isn't more likely to be nothing than to be a functional starting QB?

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 4750309)

Croyle's time to shine/fail is coming, New OL, WR's, RB's ,TE's,FB's better O Coach.....

let's hope he put his winter off-season to good use. bulking up a bit.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4750296)

Are you seriously saying he isn't more likely to be nothing than to be a functional starting QB?

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 4750252)

Croyle has had 6 games. Those guys have had 11 or more. Further, one's spot in the draft hardly accounts for much of anything, especially as QBs go.

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4750263)

Croyle's a Third Round pick and doesn't warrant the same kind of commitment.

Oh and incidentally he had 3 pre-season starts where he looked like dogshit.

Most of the starting QB's in the NFL were drafted in the First Round.
Come on.

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 4750301)

I believe if you think you have your guy you treat him with the same amount of care as you would a first rounder. Wouldn't you be pissing down your leg if you didn't?

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4750296)

Take off the homer glasses. Are you seriously saying he isn't more likely to be nothing than to be a functional starting QB?

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 4750335)

Sadly, I saw him on the news a couple of weeks ago and he still looks the size of Barney Fife.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 4750324)

No, you pick a QB and you build. Round of the draft has nothing to do with it.


Secondly:
Brady - 6th
Brees - 2nd
Romo - UDFA
Favre - 2nd
Palmer - 1st
Kitna - UDFA
Manning - 1st
Hasselback - 6th
Anderson - 6th
Cutler - 1st
Warner - UDFA
Manning - 1st
McNabb - 1st
Roethlisberger - 1st
Rivers - 1st
Campbell - 1st
Young - 1st
Garrard - 4th
Bulger - 6th
Schaub - 3rd
Harrington - 1st
Jackson - 2nd
Griese - 3rd
Lemon - UDFA
Pennington - 1st
Boller - 1st
Edwards - 3rd

Only 12 first round draft picks in this list, which is sorted by Yards. If ANYTHING, this proves that the draft is no show of what kind of QB the player will be.

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4750326)

Absolutely not.
That's the way of the NFL.
Third Round picks aren't afforded the same kind of patience.
It's a much smaller commitment.



This organization would be foolish to make him the unequivocal starter despite poor performance. Especially if he comes out and lays another stink nugget in the pre-season. If he wins the job outright I have no problem with him being the guy. If he does not... I don't want to see him under Center.

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 4750295)

croyle's offensive line last year wasn't average, it wasn't bad, it was historically bad. how the heck anyone could have been expected to suceed much a less a first year starter is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 4750160)

You guys are so full of shit. From the other thread.

All this "croyle can't win" is bogus. If you claim to be able to know by now, you are ignorant as hell, and I blame you for our consistent one-and-outs in the playoffs.

AN ACTUAL VALID STATISTICAL COMPARISON:

CROYLE:
Comp%: 58.1
TDS: 6
INTS: 6
YDS: 1227
RTG: 69.9
W-L: 0-6

Elway:
Comp%: 47.5
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 55.7

Aikman:
Comp%: 52.9
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 52.9
W-L: 4-7

Manning:
Comp%: 56.7
TDS: 26
INTS: 28
YDS: 3739
RTG: 71.2
W-L: 3-13

Point being, Croyle is as good statistically as any one of those guys in their first major year. An additional interesting note: in games in which Elway did not play, the broncos were 4-0. You all who claim Croyle is a bust CAN'T KNOW YET. If you knew and were making the personnel decisions for these three teams, the NFL would be out of 3 HoF QBs.

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4750407)

Why did you omit Elway's W-L record? Was it intentional? Just curious.