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wutamess 07-11-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 4841204)
Have you ever experienced the same but from a reverse perspective? A majority black company that wouldn't hire a white person?

Even hypothetically, would that be just as bad in your eyes?

I haven't experienced it from ANY perspective (that I'm aware of).

Hell yes that'd be just as bad in my eyes and at the same time I can see it happening more blatantly than if it were to happen in a W company.

vailpass 07-11-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841205)
Donger, you're not black... you don't know how you have to have a smile on your face when you walk past a white lady so that she won't fear you snatching her purse. You don't know how you have to overtip to break the stereotype that not all black people aren't bad tippers.

Just leave it alone.

Do you really do this?

Donger 07-11-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841205)
Donger, you're not black... you don't know how you have to have a smile on your face when you walk past a white lady so that she won't fear you snatching her purse. You don't know how you have to overtip to break the stereotype that not all black people aren't bad tippers.

Just leave it alone.

No, I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. It seems that these stereotypes bother you, and it's logical to assume that you'd like to see them gone. But, you respond with "leave it alone."

That doesn't make any sense. How can these stereotypes be overcome if "we" don't know what they are AND are then told to "leave it alone"?

markk 07-11-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841205)
Donger, you're not black... you don't know how you have to have a smile on your face when you walk past a white lady so that she won't fear you snatching her purse. You don't know how you have to overtip to break the stereotype that not all black people aren't bad tippers.

Just leave it alone.

I'll remember this next time I stop at the gas station on the way home from work, in the bad neighborhood, and have to smile and greet people and hold the door for them, to break the stereotype that any well-dressed white guy is a racist.

Demonpenz 07-11-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841205)
Donger, you're not black... you don't know how you have to have a smile on your face when you walk past a white lady so that she won't fear you snatching her purse. You don't know how you have to overtip to break the stereotype that not all black people aren't bad tippers.

Just leave it alone.

Let's be serious here. You don't know what it's like trying to dance at weddings, or make sure reruns of Friends are being DVR'd correctly.

beach tribe 07-11-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841124)
Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.

Hate to break it to you, but MOST PEOPLE, white or black, are born with JACK, (like me...Nothing.) and have to work very hard to get anything.
I have lived in many cities in this country, and there is no doubt in my mind that the playing field in areas with opportunities for the everyday man like you, and I(not the top 1%), is level. Under qualified people are given jobs in these fields when is not necessary. There are plenty of qualified minorities to fill these positions, but I don't think they bother narrowing them down because they just know they need x amount of minorities. I'm pretty sure, having lived in South Fla. this long, that it is mandatory for govenrment establishments here to hire x amount of Haitians. Most of them don't give a **** about anything, and there are plenty of people around here that deserve those jobs. Most of them african americans.

wutamess 07-11-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4841208)
My hiring practices are the same as any other business person who wants to stay in business: get the best talent regardless of color or creed. Period. End of story.
I don't give a care what they do or who they are in their own time as long as they produce on mine.

Is it right to restrict the vast majority of business owners who do not practice any form of race discrimination in order to curb the few who do?
The market will take care of those few, if you don't hire the best talent you won't stay in business.

I swear it's like talking to a deaf mute.
DID YOU NOT SEE THE (NOT YOU)?

No one gives a shit about your hiring practices. Just because "you have black friends" doesn't mean that EVERYONE does. So I understand if they put an umbrella over the entire thing.

wutamess 07-11-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4841215)
Do you really do this?

You have no clue.

wutamess 07-11-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by markk (Post 4841217)
I'll remember this next time I stop at the gas station on the way home from work, in the bad neighborhood, and have to smile and greet people and hold the door for them, to break the stereotype that any well-dressed white guy is a racist.

You're being facetious but it'd go a long way to breaking that stereotype.

~I'm being dead serious.

markk 07-11-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841227)
You're being facetious but it'd go a long way to breaking that stereotype.

~I'm being dead serious.

I intentionally try to be nice to people when I'm there. I'm not sure it does anything though.

vailpass 07-11-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4841218)
Let's be serious here. You don't know what it's like trying to dance at weddings, or make sure reruns of Friends are being DVR'd correctly.

LMAO

vailpass 07-11-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841223)
You have no clue.

Wow, that's nuts.
Do you look like Jules? Do you have a wallet that says 'Bad Mother****er"?

NewChief 07-11-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4841124)
Truthfully, I don't feel like giving examples to be judged by you and others of their validity. We feel whites are fed silver spoons from birth while we have to work hard for everything we get. You're (not you) born in the network of the good ol boy. You KNOW the inner circles while more than likely we have to start from scratch as we're usually first generation corporate employees.

All the while you're (not you) bitching about 1-2% of QUALIFIED minorities getting a job over whites.

~The good ol boy network is the reason AA is in place.

To paraphrase Chris Rock:

In any given classroom, there will be a few great students, a few horrible students, and the rest fall in the middle. The problem is that the black C student damned sure isn't going to be heading to the front of any line of job applicants. You know what happens to the white C student? Well, he's the president of the USA.

markk 07-11-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4841236)
Do you look like Jules? Do you have a wallet that says 'BAd Mother****er"?

hell i'm white as a MOFO and i want one of those wallets.

wutamess 07-11-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by markk (Post 4841230)
I intentionally try to be nice to people when I'm there. I'm not sure it does anything though.

OK so you're not being facetious because you intentionally try to break the stereotype. So you DO know where I'm coming from on some fronts. Now imagine if those black people owned all the businesses you wanted to work for, etc.... what'd be the best way to ensure you get a CHANCE at a job within one of their establishments?

We may be getting somewhere after all.


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