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tk13 08-03-2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4888715)
Interesting. I didn't realize that. His abscence from the hall makes even less sense to me now.

If Mecca is right about the reasons he listed, there shouldn't even be a HoF, imnsho. Derrick was a game changer, period. Yes, there were spots where he was invisible, but Jerry Rice dropped some sure TD catches, too.

I would love to see Gretz's presentation to the voters. I think it's been reported that he never changes it from year-to-year.
You could find it if you look hard enough, I don't know where it is. There was a big controversy the first year he didn't get in, because Dr. Z of SI said the presenter hurt DT's chances... so Gretz took a lot of heat, and posted his entire presentation on the Chiefs website, had a couple columns about it, etc. Plus listed off all the people who participated in the letter campaign, it was an impressive list.

chiefs1111 08-03-2008 08:11 PM
nice scramble there

tk13 08-03-2008 08:12 PM
Here we go....

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The Chiefs conducted an active letter-writing campaign on Thomas' behalf, including letters from several Hall of Famers and current coaches such as Bill Walsh, Marv Levy, Bill Cowher, Marty Schottenheimer, Mike Shanahan, John Elway, Jim Kelly, Jackie Slater, Marcus Allen and Warren Moon, said Peterson. Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt also sent letters to the voters.

Bowser 08-03-2008 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4888732)
The NFL HOF has always rewarded good players on great teams more than great players on bad-good teams...

A good player from a 3 or 4 time superbowl winner will get in before a great player on a team that never won, look at Lynn Swann his numbers are pedestrian.
Which is a crock, because the Hall is set up to reward individual players for their achievments.

I know this argument has been used more than a cheap hooker in Tijuana, but how many rings did Marino win? Or Andre Tippet, for that matter?

Sure-Oz 08-03-2008 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 4888742)
Here we go....
Makes you wonder if he'll get snubbed for a long time like Otis Taylor?

Mecca 08-03-2008 08:15 PM
And right now what hurts is the NFL is on this crusade to put all these old guys in, like Fred Dean.

Cris Carter was eligible this year and didn't get in, you wanna explain to me how that makes sense?

Bowser 08-03-2008 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 4888742)
Here we go....
Wow. I don't know what to say about it. I know I'm a Chiefs fan, but it really seems like a no brainer here.

Mecca 08-03-2008 08:16 PM
Colt Brennan shows why people said he was accurate.

chiefs1111 08-03-2008 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4888752)
And right now what hurts is the NFL is on this crusade to put all these old guys in, like Fred Dean.

Cris Carter was eligible this year and didn't get in, you wanna explain to me how that makes sense?
I thought he should of got in over Irvin last year.....

Mecca 08-03-2008 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 4888757)
I thought he should of got in over Irvin last year.....
Irvin deserves to be in too, but it's kind of annoying to see guys like Fred Dean going in instead of some of these other guys.

Next year a ton of guys are eligible so DT probably won't get in......watch Darren Woodson get in.

chiefs1111 08-03-2008 08:19 PM
Brennan is tearing it up........

milkman 08-03-2008 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 4888761)
Brennan is tearing it up........
He sure looks like a keeper.

chiefs1111 08-03-2008 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4888759)
Irvin deserves to be in too, but it's kind of annoying to see guys like Fred Dean going in instead of some of these other guys.

Next year a ton of guys are eligible so DT probably won't get in......watch Darren Woodson get in.
Do you think Darren Woodson deserves to get in?? I mean, he was good in his day but I don't know if he was that good....

Mecca 08-03-2008 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4888766)
He sure looks like a keeper.
Yea but we got Brodie Croyle, we couldn't draft Brennan in the 6th man we have to have Kevin Robinson!

Mecca 08-03-2008 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 4888767)
Do you think Darren Woodson deserves to get in?? I mean, he was good in his day but I don't know if he was that good....
No I don't think he was HOF good but guess what he was a member of every one of the high profile Cowboy bowl teams....he was on 3 bowl winners.


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