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chiefqueen 08-15-2008 09:13 PM

BTW Royals/Yanks tied @3 top of 8th.

KevB 08-15-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4918153)
Again, explain your logic of "always signing draft picks" when, for a lot of years, these picks have been made BECAUSE THEY'LL SIGN.

Nope. Dig up any post I've made about this year's draft and I've been very positive about it, largely because of the Melville selection. But you're right, I'm going to continue to want to hold Glass accountable.

To further support the tide is turning during this draft thought, the Royals also tried to sign their 7th round pick for $1M+, but the guy stiffed them and is going to Vandy.

There were several other players signed above the typical amount in the round they were taken also (Keubler comes to mind). Regardless what happens with Hosmer (I'd be shocked if he doesn't sign), this draft absolutely signals a change in the strategy.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 4918168)
To further support the tide is turning during this draft thought, the Royals also tried to sign their 7th round pick for $1M+, but the guy stiffed them and is going to Vandy.

There were several other players signed above the typical amount in the round they were taken also (Keubler comes to mind). Regardless what happens with Hosmer (I'd be shocked if he doesn't sign), this draft absolutely signals a change in the strategy.

That's a great point about the 7th rounder. I'd heard that but forgotten. You're absolutely right.

Hosmer is a major piece. It would be a major blow not to get the #3 overall pick signed.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4918164)
As I've said numerous times, judge the organization by it's current staff and decisions, not on decisions that were made generations ago by Herk Robinson and Allard Baird. That's just f'n reeruned.

David Glass has been the one constant since the death of Mr. K. Why do you think these GM's have had to worry about $ leading to signability? Do you really think Baird, for example, didn't want to draft the individual whom he thought had the most talent? This hangs on Glass.

KevB 08-15-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4918157)
All three of the players you mentioned weren't worthy of the selection, and I'm talking pre-draft. Maybe Stodolka? WTF? Butler, of course. He didn't have a position coming out.

The Royals aren't in this position b/c they were doing things the right way in the draft.

Lubanski was Baseball America's 9th rated player. Butler was arguably a signability pick, but again, his success justifies the pick IMO. My "maybe Stodolka" comment was that he was the last egregious signability pick in the 1st round.

Mecca 08-15-2008 09:22 PM

It's also hard to be positive because the Royals are just snake bitten when it comes to the draft, things seem to never work out.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 4918192)
Lubanski was Baseball America's 9th rated player. Butler was arguably a signability pick, but again, his success justifies the pick IMO. My "maybe Stodolka" comment was that he was the last egregious signability pick in the 1st round.

Ok. I understand about Stodolka. Lubanski was a reach at #4, but perhaps not as nasty as others.

Butler's success? Huh? The jury is still out, right? I'd hardly consider anything to be a success yet. Admittedly he's still VERY young and could definitely develop into something.

KevB 08-15-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4918201)
Ok. I understand.

Butler's success? Huh? The jury is still out, right? I'd hardly consider anything to be a success yet. Admittedly he's still VERY young and could definitely develop into something.

The fact that he dominated every level in the minors and has had some success in the big leagues at the age of 22 qualifies as a success (so far). We'll see if he builds on it.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 4918205)
The fact that he dominated every level in the minors and has had some success in the big leagues at the age of 22 qualifies as a success (so far). We'll see if he builds on it.

Ok. But a 22-year-old DH isn't probably most people's definition of success. That said, I don't understand the organization's negative view of his skills in the field.

KevB 08-15-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4918212)
Ok. But a 22-year-old DH isn't probably most people's definition of success. That said, I don't understand the organization's negative view of his skills in the field.

I think the guy can be a serviceable first baseman, but why he's not playing there and Gload is unfortunately is an entirely different conversation.

Mecca 08-15-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 4918216)
I think the guy can be a serviceable first baseman, but why he's not playing there and Gload is unfortunately is an entirely different conversation.

Does it involve the manager being a dumbass?

teedubya 08-15-2008 09:33 PM

25 minutes to sign.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:34 PM

I am truly shocked that there are still KC area fans willing to fight pretty hard to defend this organization (and in doing so are largely defending David Glass). Can you imagine the excitement if we'd been actually trying to win since Mr. K died?

Mecca 08-15-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 4918224)
I am truly shocked that there are still KC area fans willing to fight pretty hard to defend this organization (and in doing so are largely defending David Glass). Can you imagine the excitement if we'd been actually trying to win since Mr. K died?

It's like defending Carl Peterson.

DeezNutz 08-15-2008 09:38 PM

It's gotta be Dan Glass.


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